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One thing I wish I had done differently. I wish I had made my battery shelf about an inch deeper. I was trying to keep it close to inline with the existing docking station depth...but that didn't pan out anyway. That way the terminals and cables would fit inside the shelf a little better. Just food for thought.2020 Imagine 2400BH
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Originally posted by howson View Post
Steve,
The response on Facebook:
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Originally posted by bellis View PostMy Multiplus has 2 AC inputs.Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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Originally posted by howson View Post
??? What Multiplus do you have?
I think one is meant for a generator? I am only using the one. I would have to pull the cover and double check....I am using one AC in and one AC out. It has an additional AC and I am pretty sure it was input....only 1 AC output.
There is also 2 terminals on the + and - side for 12VDC.2020 Imagine 2400BH
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Originally posted by bellis View PostMultiplus 12/3000/120. Description on invoice = "PMP123021102 - Multiplus 12/3000/120-50 120v VE Bus"
I think one is meant for a generator? I am only using the one. I would have to pull the cover and double check....I am using one AC in and one AC out. It has an additional AC and I am pretty sure it was input....only 1 AC output.
There is also 2 terminals on the + and - side for 12VDC.
There's a photo of the connections on this site: https://shop.pkys.com/Victron-Energy...02_p_2431.html
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Originally posted by bellis View Post
I think one is meant for a generator? I am only using the one. I would have to pull the cover and double check....I am using one AC in and one AC out. It has an additional AC and I am pretty sure it was input....only 1 AC output.
There is also 2 terminals on the + and - side for 12VDC.
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Gene's description is correct--the 2nd ac output is "limited" and will only work when the external ("shore") ac is available on the input. AC output 1 is the inverter output which passes shore power. Note the inverter must be on or shore power will not pass thru the inverter (one of the few things I don't like about the Victron).Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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Originally posted by howson View PostGene's description is correct--the 2nd ac output is "limited" and will only work when the external ("shore") ac is available on the input. AC output 1 is the inverter output which passes shore power. Note the inverter must be on or shore power will not pass thru the inverter (one of the few things I don't like about the Victron).
Will try to get an update out soon. Have made some progress and I think figured out the 12VDC side of things (OEM).2020 Imagine 2400BH
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Sorry all! Way behind on an update. A quick out of order recap.
1. Ground to frame completed + ground from multiplus.
2. DC power wire run to OEM power switch / other side of Factory OEM wire ran directly to +12VDC distribution bar.
3. HDMI and USB extension run from installed location to pass through.
4. Touch GX50 installed.
4. Some wire management completed.
5. Cerbo is communicating with smartshunt, multiplus, and MPPT via a cable.
6. Used the Cerbo to pull the settings of the multiplus and turn on UPS, change settings (BB was supposed to change charge settings and failed to do so). I then was able to push back using VRM.
7. Updated firmware on devices.
8. Replaced truck mirrors - but that is for another post: https://gdrvowners.com/towing-and-hi...ew-tow-mirrors
9. Turned off the CB and completely disconnected the AC to DC converter (WFCO?) It is still in the distribution panel for now, but is no wires are connected.
2 camping trips under my belt....another this weekend.
Things that still need done:
1. Install easystart.
2. Buy solar panels, wire, and install.
3. Test Black wire on truck / trailer disconnect from +12VDC? Test to see if the black wire have voltage when batteries are on without truck.
4. Hide the install or use plexiglass on the front. Haven't decided what I am going to do just yet.
Updated drawing posted. I changed the spot where the solar positive wire came in to after the battery master switch after thinking about it and input from @howson.
With the above, if my master battery switch is powered on....my powered jack, jack light, old battery wires, and emergency brake all have power. It is only when I turn on the OEM switch that the rest of the trailer has 12VDC power.
Questions:
1. I did not change which side the 12VDC wire is coming to on the self resetting circuit breaker. Do I need to? One side is brass (IE indicates power connected here). The way that it works is that if it heats up it separates and does not pass power. I would think this would be agnostic to which side it was connected to. I have tested my setup and voltage is flowing through the CB without issue.
2. Is it really imperative that I remove the black wire from the truck connection? As long as the truck is not hooked up when not towing? IE only have the towing connector hooked up while towing...not while parked. I am considering leaving it even though the charge amount is negligible to non-existent?
3. Any reason not to completely remove the WFCO (AC to DC converter/charger)?
4. Why is the circuit breaker for the WFCO converter charger slightly larger than the other breakers....even though it is the same amperage?
Updated electrical plan and included a very rough 12VDC diagram. At some point maybe I will have a few to make them look nicer. I need to get an updated pic of the wall in the pass through.
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bellis As someone dealing with an issue with their Victron Multiplus I’d recommend you leave your factory converter in place. If turned off it’s not hurting anyone, and it’s good to have a backup battery charger just in case. My case is probably rare, but my Multiplus won’t switch to shore power, and having the factory converter allows me a way to recharge the batteries and keep up with the drain.Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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bellis Tangent question. Does that cover (to the right of the picture) slide over the control panel, and your new monitor?
Did you construct that slide? (My 2017 doesn't appear to have it)Mike
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Originally posted by bellis View Post1. I did not change which side the 12VDC wire is coming to on the self resetting circuit breaker. Do I need to? One side is brass (IE indicates power connected here). The way that it works is that if it heats up it separates and does not pass power. I would think this would be agnostic to which side it was connected to. I have tested my setup and voltage is flowing through the CB without issue.
Originally posted by bellis View Post2. Is it really imperative that I remove the black wire from the truck connection? As long as the truck is not hooked up when not towing? IE only have the towing connector hooked up while towing...not while parked. I am considering leaving it even though the charge amount is negligible to non-existent?
Originally posted by bellis View Post3. Any reason not to completely remove the WFCO (AC to DC converter/charger)?
Originally posted by bellis View Post4. Why is the circuit breaker for the WFCO converter charger slightly larger than the other breakers....even though it is the same amperage?
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I'd hazard the guess that they didn't need the extra circuit that a tandem circuit breaker provides, and just used a standard one.Mike
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Originally posted by ncitro View Postbellis As someone dealing with an issue with their Victron Multiplus I’d recommend you leave your factory converter in place. If turned off it’s not hurting anyone, and it’s good to have a backup battery charger just in case. My case is probably rare, but my Multiplus won’t switch to shore power, and having the factory converter allows me a way to recharge the batteries and keep up with the drain.
I haven't tried, but I do not believe my multiplus will power up on AC power...I think it has to have the 12VDC power. Would be great if it would power up either way....especially if it was in charge mode.2020 Imagine 2400BH
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