howson Oh I am sure that was the issue as I did nothing at all lol. I had it tied to the metal of the body which I thought would act as enough of a heat sink, but I was clearly wrong. That said when I needed to replace it the solenoid was cheaper and at 200 amps I figured it would be way less chance of failure.
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Originally posted by ncitro View Posthowson Oh I am sure that was the issue as I did nothing at all lol. I had it tied to the metal of the body which I thought would act as enough of a heat sink, but I was clearly wrong. That said when I needed to replace it the solenoid was cheaper and at 200 amps I figured it would be way less chance of failure.Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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Originally posted by howson View Post
As I now read back through this thread I see you already noted the lack of the heat sink back in Aug (in post 87). I apologize--didn't mean to rehash old history.Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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Originally posted by ncitro View Post
I tried that and it did not work for me. I did also have the Renogy fail shortly after I tried that method. I got it exchanged with no issue, but I never retried that configuration so I am not sure if that was the problem with tying it to the charging wire. I pretty much always tow with the headlights on so it was not worth troubleshooting further at that point.
I would caution you, I know Howard has had no issues with his setup, but the 60 amp solid state relay I used to go from the truck batteries to the upfitter feed failed on me. To finish that trip I just tied it to the battery, knowing if my lights were on it would be running the charger. Once I got home I picked up a 200 amp solenoid and it has been good ever since. I know it is not as efficient, but that waste of power is on the truck side, and the alternator has power to spare so I figured it would be fine.
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Originally posted by wygieman View Post
I saw the issue you had with the solid state relay and chose to go with an old fashioned 200 amp relay. As you mention there is plenty of power available with the truck’s dual alternator setup. I used this one. I guess I will find out if it works
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Thinking about your earlier question regarding the D+ line (and if you don't mind a bit of speculation), the Renogy is designed to have +12v from the battery "sit" on the input at all times. I don't think the engineers envisioned having the D+ and 12+ at the input both set active simultaneously or from the same source. Just an opinion...but I wouldn't do it.
I haven't read back through this whole thread, but the reason I used a relay on the main power line (triggered on and off by the Upfitter switch) was to remove 12+ from the connector at the back of the truck. This was important to me to ensure that when the trailer is disconnected from the truck there wasn't "live" 12v battery power sitting on the connector.
Since it's been awhile and I've used this setup now multiple times in real-world conditions, I can report I've had no issues whatsoever with the setup. I am very pleased with how the Renogy works with my setup and that I've got the option to charge from the truck if solar output drops (rain, cloudy day, etc) while traveling.Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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Originally posted by howson View Post
Also 1/10th the cost of the SSR! Obviously I should have done more research into that particular component.
I’m quite happy with mine as well, we boondock or dry camp quite often and it’s agitate good to show up at 100%.
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Originally posted by howson View Post
Also 1/10th the cost of the SSR! Obviously I should have done more research into that particular component.
Thinking about your earlier question regarding the D+ line (and if you don't mind a bit of speculation), the Renogy is designed to have +12v from the battery "sit" on the input at all times. I don't think the engineers envisioned having the D+ and 12+ at the input both set active simultaneously or from the same source. Just an opinion...but I wouldn't do it.
I haven't read back through this whole thread, but the reason I used a relay on the main power line (triggered on and off by the Upfitter switch) was to remove 12+ from the connector at the back of the truck. This was important to me to ensure that when the trailer is disconnected from the truck there wasn't "live" 12v battery power sitting on the connector.
Since it's been awhile and I've used this setup now multiple times in real-world conditions, I can report I've had no issues whatsoever with the setup. I am very pleased with how the Renogy works with my setup and that I've got the option to charge from the truck if solar output drops (rain, cloudy day, etc) while traveling.
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Originally posted by wygieman View PostI think that the purpose of the D+ terminal is to let you hook to the primary battery directly but not take current from the battery unless the alternator is on to replenish it.
The Renogy manual is poorly written and confusing with it's terminology, but as you've written the purpose of the D+ is to keep the Renogy from charging the "house" battery from the "vehicle" battery unless the vehicle (and presumably the alternator) is running.
I don't think Renogy envisioned their device being used to charge travel trailer batteries. I believe the component is primarily targeted at "skoolies" (vans) and motorhomes that have vehicle batteries permanently connected to the Renogy's input. In that situation, hooking the D+ directly to the vehicle battery would defeat the purpose of the D+ signal cable.
Not your situation--I understand how you're using the Upfitter switch.
I hope you'll post a follow-up with the results and real-world experience with the setup.
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At the request of a friend of mine I've put together a list of items I used in this modification (see attached spreadsheet or PDF, whichever is your preference). Included is Neil's alternative for the relay (much less expensive). The list is long but not necessarily comprehensive or all-inclusive--this is not a "plug and play" mod. Each vehicle and/or owner will have unique requirements or different thoughts on how to implement. The purpose of this list is to show what I used, not to definitively state what you should use. In other words, this is a "Reference Only" to get the reader started as they make their own decision on what to buy and how to implement on their setup.
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Howard howson ,
since you have mentioned before how much you like Victron Energy products is there a reason you chose the Renology DC-DC charger over the Victron DC-DC charger?
Just a curiosity question more than anything, thanks
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2017 Silverado 2500 HD diesel
2018 Reflection 230RL
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Primary reason for me is the Victron wasn't "smart" (didn't connect to the VE.Bus therefore it didn't communicate with the other Victron products). The Renogy also got a great review (with demo) from Will Prowse. Add in the $$ savings and it was an easy decision (for me).Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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Originally posted by howson View Post
Primary reason for me is the Victron wasn't "smart" (didn't connect to the VE.Bus therefore it didn't communicate with the other Victron products). The Renogy also got a great review (with demo) from Will Prowse. Add in the $$ savings and it was an easy decision (for me).
Thanks for the information. I did notice that the victron unit won't communicate with the others but it looks like they have now made it "smart" and will at least link to their app. Just haven't found a lot of reviews on it yet.
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Originally posted by howson View Post
Not your situation--I understand how you're using the Upfitter switch.
I hope you'll post a follow-up with the results and real-world experience with the setup.
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Originally posted by wygieman View Post
I saw the issue you had with the solid state relay and chose to go with an old fashioned 200 amp relay. As you mention there is plenty of power available with the truck’s dual alternator setup. I used this one. I guess I will find out if it works
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