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  • Broken Tank need valve

    Yep, black tank is broken. Found out by liquid coming out from my underbelly when my black tank was full.
    I have ordered a new tank, but having a hard time finding the dump valve. Any ideas where to find the exact one?
    I think if I have the same value I can unbolt the existing one and use the new one for half of the value so I don't have to redo all the sewage pipe. The existing dump valve is glued in on both sides.

    Thanks
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  • #2
    That's a Bristol valve.

    https://gdrvowners.com/forum/operati...valves-315rlts

    https://gdrvowners.com/forum/operati...king-bypassing

    If you have to put in a new valve, there's a junction piece that @Cate&Rob recommends. You should consider using one of these junctions instead of gluing on the new valve so it's easier in the future to swap out the valve when (not if!) it's needed.

    The internet stinks at work so the search function won't return the info to Rob's part--so hopefully he'll chime in here with the info. Might be a good time to swap over to the Valterra valve, too.

    Also, don't miss Rob's posts about valve cable routing. While you're in there it's a good time to get it taken care of.
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    • #3
      Cate&Rob -- tag didn't work in post 2. Please see above...
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      • #4
        How do you know that the tank is broken? Do you see a crack in the tank?

        If it only has leaked when full then the leak may be at one of the inlets , toilet , or the vent pipe. These are inserted into the tank with a rubber grommet.

        Brian
        Brian & Michelle
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Country Campers View Post
          How do you know that the tank is broken? Do you see a crack in the tank?
          Hard to tell from the picture but the white is tp coming from the break. Its at the top of the tank at the bend. Almost the hole length of the tank. Not much holding up the tank right now.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BarberArias View Post

            Hard to tell from the picture but the white is tp coming from the break. Its at the top of the tank at the bend. Almost the hole length of the tank. Not much holding up the tank right now.
            Well that is not good to hear or see. You may want to alert GD customer service about this so they can document.

            Brian
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            • #7
              howson thanks for the links and the pointers.
              Josh & Cameo
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              • #8
                BarberArias

                Hi Josh . . . well, that is unfortunate.

                In 2019, the gate valve would have most likely been Valterra (it should say on the pull handle) and these are commonly available service parts (3”). The alignment of the two flanges (one on the tank and one on the pipe) have to be exact. You can use the flange on the pipe, but will have to fit the new flange to the tank and glue it into place after it is aligned with the flange on the pipe.

                Rob
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by howson View Post
                  That's a Bristol valve.

                  https://gdrvowners.com/forum/operati...valves-315rlts

                  https://gdrvowners.com/forum/operati...king-bypassing

                  If you have to put in a new valve, there's a junction piece that @Cate&Rob recommends. You should consider using one of these junctions instead of gluing on the new valve so it's easier in the future to swap out the valve when (not if!) it's needed.

                  The internet stinks at work so the search function won't return the info to Rob's part--so hopefully he'll chime in here with the info. Might be a good time to swap over to the Valterra valve, too.

                  Also, don't miss Rob's posts about valve cable routing. While you're in there it's a good time to get it taken care of.
                  BarberArias
                  This I believe is the piece that howson was referencing.

                  https://www.lowes.com/pd/Fernco-3-in...ing/1000075327

                  I had to replace a valve and repair a leak and I put mine next to the gray water valve that I replaced. I don't have a pic of the completed repair, but maybe this will help. I cut the connector between the valves at about what was about the middle point of the rubber sleeve when the sleeve is seated against the connection of the elbow. Click image for larger version

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                  • #10
                    BarberArias howson ThePowells

                    Hi Josh,

                    Whoops . . . I missed Howard's earlier observation that you have a Bristol gate valve. I have never worked with a Bristol valve, but I understand that a Valterra will fit the same flanges, if you have trouble sourcing a Bristol replacement. BTW . . . replacing the gate valve is not absolutely necessary if it is working properly. Just the seals on each side could be replaced. With gate valves being "chronic" sources of problems, I would replace the valve and cable if I had everything apart anyway.

                    Jerry has identified the correct connection piece, but there will not be room for this on the tank side of the gate valve. You should still plan on obtaining a new gate valve flange for the tank side and it should be glued into place (although I have seen some installed with some sort of sealant and a hose clamp). I cut my drain manifold into three pieces (one for each gate valve) and rejoined these pieces with the connectors linked. This has worked well and allows me to remove just the section of drain associated with one tank if/when necessary.

                    Rob
                    Cate & Rob
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post
                      BarberArias howson ThePowells

                      ...but I understand that a Valterra will fit the same flanges, if you have trouble sourcing a Bristol replacement.
                      Unfortunately not the case, Rob, as I reported in post 24 of the previously linked thread. https://gdrvowners.com/forum/operati...1404#post21404



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                      • #12
                        I ordered parts for both brands of valves, figured that when I have everything taken apart next weekend having to many parts to choose from is better than not enough. Wish me luck on this dirty job!
                        I'll post better pictures of the broken tank once it is out. I also have plans to better support the tank so maybe this won't happen again.
                        Josh & Cameo
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                        • #13
                          BarberArias Just to be clear, as said, the rubber connector has to go on the pipe that connects the valves. This will allow each to be removed independently. There is zero room to put it between the valve and the tank.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by howson View Post

                            Unfortunately not the case, Rob, as I reported in post 24 of the previously linked thread. https://gdrvowners.com/forum/operati...1404#post21404


                            Just wondering howson , did you try interchanging a 3" dump valve from the two brands as well? Your post only mentioned the 1.5", but maybe you tried both with the same result.

                            If not, BarberArias can you perhaps try installing a 3" Valterra valve on the Bristol flange, and report back? I'm sure a few of us would be interested in that information, myself included. I hope that ask doesn't cause the job to be any more dirty for you​​​​​​​
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                            • #15
                              I'm looking, but I remember reading something about one seat of seals could only be used on that one, but the other will work on both.I don't rermember which is which.
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