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Upgraded axles and disk Brakes not available in Canada?
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So Canada has some insane and crazy restrictions when it comes to 8k axles, and even more guidelines to follow when it comes to disc brake options. They will not pass the current brake that is used in an 8k application by either Dexter nor LCI... which means that the 8k axles that go there, are considered hybrids (we do not currently use this application, but other mfg do). They take the 12x2 brake and put it on the 8k axle application. However, spindle and brake itself are not rated at a full 8k. Since they list it as a hybrid, it is able to get over the border. That is just the old LCI knowledge coming out.
LOL
since we do not have the ability to offer the true 8k, and the only 8k option we offer is the disc brake... we cannot get the approval to have this go to Canada. Some other restrictions I have seen are having a type of E Brake option (emergency or hand brake option) like they use in Europe... but no one has really done much research on it as it is pretty pricey to add in, and the mfg of axles here in the states, really don't have the option.
I personally don't believe that you should underrate any part of the axle assembly in order to get it over the border, and my gut tells me that our mgmt more than likely feels the same way. However, that is just my personal opinion.
We do have to oblige by what our axle mfg recommends and what they are to accommodate and at this time, the 8k option is just not a possibility.
Thanks for the details . . . what a curious situation. Just to complete the story, what brakes go on a standard US market 8000 lb axle? (where Canadian units get 12x2)
So Canada has some insane and crazy restrictions when it comes to 8k axles, and even more guidelines to follow when it comes to disc brake options. They will not pass the current brake that is used in an 8k application by either Dexter nor LCI... which means that the 8k axles that go there, are considered hybrids (we do not currently use this application, but other mfg do). They take the 12x2 brake and put it on the 8k axle application. However, spindle and brake itself are not rated at a full 8k. Since they list it as a hybrid, it is able to get over the border. That is just the old LCI knowledge coming out.
LOL
since we do not have the ability to offer the true 8k, and the only 8k option we offer is the disc brake... we cannot get the approval to have this go to Canada. Some other restrictions I have seen are having a type of E Brake option (emergency or hand brake option) like they use in Europe... but no one has really done much research on it as it is pretty pricey to add in, and the mfg of axles here in the states, really don't have the option.
I personally don't believe that you should underrate any part of the axle assembly in order to get it over the border, and my gut tells me that our mgmt more than likely feels the same way. However, that is just my personal opinion.
We do have to oblige by what our axle mfg recommends and what they are to accommodate and at this time, the 8k option is just not a possibility.
Thanks all!
Here is a unit with the 8,000 lb axle, and disk brakes, in Alberta.
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