I have 2020 Imagine 2150rb. The attached images show oily/greasy substance from inside one of the four wheels. Only one wheel has this in it. I'm scheduling a maintenance trip for this weekend. Just wondering if you folks might be able to save me any potential headaches with dealership. Is this a sign the wheel bearing is failing? I have TireMinder sensors on the wheels, and temps are similar (within 3 degrees) across all tires after driving 100+ miles. Hub isn't hot to the touch after stopping. Thanks in advance!
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2 PhotosCharlie, Allie and Clyde (5 y/o Black Lab)2020 Imagine 2150rb and2016 GMC Canyon with K&N Cold Air Intake, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Diablo Sport Octane 87 tune, and Roadmaster Active Suspension
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Originally posted by Bones1078 View PostI have 2020 Imagine 2150rb. The attached images show oily/greasy substance from inside one of the four wheels. Only one wheel has this in it. I'm scheduling a maintenance trip for this weekend. Just wondering if you folks might be able to save me any potential headaches with dealership. Is this a sign the wheel bearing is failing? I have TireMinder sensors on the wheels, and temps are similar (within 3 degrees) across all tires after driving 100+ miles. Hub isn't hot to the touch after stopping. Thanks in advance!
RobRob & Barb
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A few years ago, this was a very common problem on all the units. It was caused by excessive grease being installed by the axle manufacturer and the grease seals being unable to contain it. It appears that the grease seal on that hub has failed. I would not suspect a bearing problem.
Have you inserted any extra grease through the zerk fitting at the end of the hub? If so, it may have pushed past the grease seal.
If the grease seal has failed, your brakes are likely contaminated with grease and will have to be replaced. If there is grease on the brake linings, insist that they be replaced and not just cleaned.
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Originally posted by Calbar View Post
Hard to tell from the pictures but looks like the grease seal may be leaking if you can see grease also on the back of the brake drum.
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2020 Ford F250 w/ 7.3L (Godzila) Engine
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Originally posted by TucsonJim View Post
Have you inserted any extra grease through the zerk fitting at the end of the hub? If so, it may have pushed past the grease seal.
I'll do a more detailed check tomorrow when I swing by the storage unit with my TT.
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Originally posted by Bones1078 View Post
Thanks for the info Jim! I haven't added grease to any of the hubs. Any suggestions for further inspection?
I'll do a more detailed check tomorrow when I swing by the storage unit with my TT.
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Originally posted by TucsonJim View Post
If you have any questions at all on how to do the job, hit us up.
We live on the Gulf Coast, in South MS. I've got a trip planned, next Thurs thru Sun, to North MS, roughly 6 hours from home. Also, looks like I'll need to be on the move with the TT to get out of the path of Hurricane Delta -- soo many hurricanes in the GOM this year, in the Atlantic basin.
Anyway, I say all that to say -- I'm most concerned with answering the question, "is it safe to put on the road?" I've planned a visit to the dealer this Sat, but I'll have to cancel that plan (Hurricane Delta). Look forward to seeing your tips/expertise!Charlie, Allie and Clyde (5 y/o Black Lab)2020 Imagine 2150rb and2016 GMC Canyon with K&N Cold Air Intake, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Diablo Sport Octane 87 tune, and Roadmaster Active Suspension
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Originally posted by Bones1078 View PostAnyway, I say all that to say -- I'm most concerned with answering the question, "is it safe to put on the road?"
To your question: only you can answer the question "Is it safe" based on the conditions and risks of the situation at hand. In your place, I'd confirm the brakes on the trailer work by doing pre-tow check and I'd have a thermal "gun" with me to check bearing temps every time I stopped.
Good luck!
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"Is it safe?". Many of us towed many miles with greasy brakes and I don't know of anyone that had an accident. Back in the 2014-2017 time frame, we filed dozens of complaints with the NHTSA regarding the situation. Eventually, GDRV switched from Lippert axles to Dexter axles and I'm guessing this was one of the reasons. I'm with Howard. Make sure your trailer brakes are stopping the rig, and monitor the hub temperatures with a thermometer every time you stop. But if the bearing is starting to fail, the hub could lock up and then you'd have a break down.
If you want to disassemble and inspect the hub, Here's one video on the project. There are tons of video's that show how to remove, maintain and reassemble these parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs_34iFcE0g
Jim
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Originally posted by Bones1078 View PostAnyway, I say all that to say -- I'm most concerned with answering the question, "is it safe to put on the road?" I've planned a visit to the dealer this Sat, but I'll have to cancel that plan (Hurricane Delta). Look forward to seeing your tips/expertise!
RobRob & Barb
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Thanks howson , TucsonJim , and Calbar for the inputs!
Here's what I did this afternoon: I wiped the inside of the rim clean with paper towels to ensure absolutely no residue was on the rim. Then I took it out on the interstate for ~30 mile loop. Checked temp of the wheel hubs by touch of hand, all wheels had the same feel all around each wheel's center cap and lugs. Inspected the inside of the rim, still spotless. Soo....
We took delivery of the trailer on May 1 of this year and have been out on several trips. I can't say when the oil/grease showed up, with any certainty. But it was about a month ago (approx 3 trips) when I was cleaning the wheels with a brush that I realized there was more than brake dust. Didn't think much of than to wonder what I'd run through. HA Anyway, I'm thinking this might've been a one time thing. Does this provide anymore help for you guys? Sorry, I failed to snap anymore pics, but I can confirm that the back of the brake drum is clean -- no obvious signs of any form of oil.
I'll double check the brakes in a couple days...when we head away from Delta. howson we might end up in your area this weekend, dependent on the storm track.
Thanks for the vid TucsonJim !Charlie, Allie and Clyde (5 y/o Black Lab)2020 Imagine 2150rb and2016 GMC Canyon with K&N Cold Air Intake, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Diablo Sport Octane 87 tune, and Roadmaster Active Suspension
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UPDATE: didn't need to run from Hurricane Delta, and was able to get to dealership to have them check it out, under warranty. The metal grease cap had a tear in it, likely happened during install. I did not think to take a pic, though. :(
Problem solved!Charlie, Allie and Clyde (5 y/o Black Lab)2020 Imagine 2150rb and2016 GMC Canyon with K&N Cold Air Intake, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Diablo Sport Octane 87 tune, and Roadmaster Active Suspension
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