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  • #31
    Ouch - why are the sockets so expensive?
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Yoda View Post
      I was actually working on something else, but thought to myself that a good 1/2" drive impact gun would be handy around the hay equipment and especially to save my back changing tires.

      After searching through numerous threads the information I am lacking is brand and model impact guns folks are using. Common element is 1/2" drive and proper impact sockets. What I am not seeing is the torque needed (size of unit). I have a 2.5 gallon air tank at 145psi with a good 12v Viair compressor available if that makes an air unit possible. I also have 18V Makita batterys and charger available too. So whats better air or battery powered? What brand and models are folks using?

      Any information would be great as I know next to nothing about these except they are loud.

      Thanks
      Keith

      BTW I do have a torque wrench for final tightening.
      Keith,

      The best and most powerful pneumatic impact guns are made by Ingersoll Rand IMO. Today's gun puts out over 900 ft-lb.

      I still have my original that was purchased in the 70s. For electrics? I have no experience with them but hear positive comments from users that have them.

      Here is one IR example:

      https://www.amazon.com/Ingersoll-Ran...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

      Jim
      Last edited by Guest; 09-21-2021, 06:19 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by TheNescios View Post
        As I was reminded after joining a little over a year ago when I made a suggestion about "making do with what we have" - "never discount a good reason to purchase a new tool"!
        Pretty sure the forum motto is 'we love spending other people's money'...lol
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        • #34
          Guest Jim, I treated myself to one of these a few years back https://aircat.com/aircat/impact-wre...-impact-wrench 1,295 ft*lb of get off of there. I use it to run nuts back on the truck and trailer. Just blip the trigger so it does not hammer (being lazy on spinning the lug nuts back on) just spins. If I let it hit 1 - 2 times that puts the torque on the truck lug nuts to about 80 ft*lb.

          This thing for a battery op 1/2" impact is just ruthless. https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Produc...enches/2767-20
          Joseph
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jlawles2 View Post
            Guest Jim, I treated myself to one of these a few years back https://aircat.com/aircat/impact-wre...-impact-wrench 1,295 ft*lb of get off of there. I use it to run nuts back on the truck and trailer. Just blip the trigger so it does not hammer (being lazy on spinning the lug nuts back on) just spins. If I let it hit 1 - 2 times that puts the torque on the truck lug nuts to about 80 ft*lb.

            This thing for a battery op 1/2" impact is just ruthless. https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Produc...enches/2767-20
            Joseph,

            Nice stuff! If I were in the market for a gun, the electric would be a tempting. But I'm always concerned about the cost of replacement batteries. I had a Bosch drill years ago that was excellent but the cost of a replacement battery resulted in it being tossed in the trash. Milwaukee is a great brand among others.

            Unrelated but there is another storm here out of the north and boats are twisting in their moorings violently. Sitting here watching the show and hoping for the best for everyone.

            Jim

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Yoda View Post
              I also have 18V Makita batterys and charger available too.
              BTW I do have a torque wrench for final tightening.
              Hi Keith,

              You will find that the little 18V 1/4" Makita impact driver will generate over 80 lb-ft of torque . . . getting well into the range where you can take over with your torque wrench for tightening. You would still need a breaker bar for loosening.

              Rob

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post

                Hi Keith,

                You will find that the little 18V 1/4" Makita impact driver will generate over 80 lb-ft of torque . . . getting well into the range where you can take over with your torque wrench for tightening. You would still need a breaker bar for loosening.

                Rob
                I actually have one of those. Ill haft to give it a test. I can probably try it out on the baler when I put things back on. Right now I am watching for deep sales and researching impact sockets. Craftsman seem to have the best prices on sets - again just need to wait for the black Friday sales
                Example socket sets

                https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-CMM...a-810923599162

                https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-Imp...a-797443977331

                Thanks again for the help
                Keith
                2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Yoda View Post

                  I actually have one of those. Ill haft to give it a test. I can probably try it out on the baler when I put things back on. Right now I am watching for deep sales and researching impact sockets. Craftsman seem to have the best prices on sets - again just need to wait for the black Friday sales
                  Example socket sets

                  https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-CMM...a-810923599162

                  https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-Imp...a-797443977331

                  Thanks again for the help
                  Keith
                  I have the metric set which are very nice. And what I lucked into for $47.00. They will rust in spite of claims of being corrosion resistant. Still a good choice though.

                  Jim

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Yoda View Post

                    I actually have one of those. Ill haft to give it a test. I can probably try it out on the baler when I put things back on. Right now I am watching for deep sales and researching impact sockets. Craftsman seem to have the best prices on sets - again just need to wait for the black Friday sales
                    Example socket sets

                    https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-CMM...a-810923599162

                    https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-Imp...a-797443977331

                    Thanks again for the help
                    Keith

                    Keith, this is a nice compact set for various truck and trailer lug nut sizes.


                    https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-Impact...ustomerReviews
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                    • #40
                      I have not been impressed with Craftsman offerings over the last ten years or so.....
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                      • #41

                        Update
                        Well I went and did it. Found it on sale at https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...d-charger.html Tool, 2 batterys, charger and case.

                        $100 off ($349) if you get a $25 add on which I actually needed https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...drive-set.html so $75 off total. I had called around before ordering to find out what usually happens towards Black Friday from various sellers and all said $50 to $75 off then. So now I can tackle the baler and not bust my knuckles. SWMBO did not say anything either - a good thing. I got my ladder extension from there folks so know they are reliable and will handle any issues. Free shipping too.

                        Keith
                        2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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                        • #42
                          I might consider one of these https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1...211B/310782220 since the batteries are also covered under lifetime warranty.
                          Joseph
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                          Coach: 303RLS Delivered March 5, 2021
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Jlawles2 View Post
                            I might consider one of these https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1...211B/310782220 since the batteries are also covered under lifetime warranty.
                            Now you tell me
                            2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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                            • #44
                              Well to close this out. I was lucky to find a sale - with a great one time use coupon I scrounged up.
                              https://capritools.com/shop/1-2-driv...ct-socket-set/
                              This set will primarily be for home use - hay baler, etc

                              Then I got this for the lug nuts to carry with me.
                              https://capritools.com/shop/impact-flip-socket-set/

                              Everything is in stock and not stuck in a container ship. A lot of sites are showing out of stock on this and other brands you have recommend.

                              I also picked up at Zoro these (using a rare 25% coupon that actually worked - a lot of theirs are product specific.
                              https://www.zoro.com/capri-tools-12-.../i/G900459455/ I plan to use the 80 lb stick and then finish with my torque wrench on the lug nuts
                              and
                              https://www.zoro.com/capri-tools-14-.../i/G100017110/

                              I will carry it and use it with my small Makita impact driver. I am finding that due to its compact size it is my go to tool - especially for my projects in removing the belly fabric - just need to be careful as it can snap those fasteners off. It also breaks my cheap craftsman sockets. This is the set I will carry too and not take my Craftsman set that is incomplete. The box on the set is very well made and compact - takes up less space too.

                              Thanks Folks
                              Keith
                              2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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                              • #45
                                Just to add something different to the discussion- I carry a Rigid Tools compact impact that gives about 225 ft/lbs of force and a 24” 1/2” break bar and 19mm and 17mm 6 point sockets, a ten ton bottle jack, and a four way. I had one of the Westlake tires throw the belt and when I went to take off the lug nuts, I could only get 5 of the 6 off. The chrome cap had stripped off of the high quality two piece construction lug nuts provided by Grand Design. Once the caps strip off the lug nuts, it will round them off and they’re 17mm underneath. I had to call out a tire service to get that last lug nut off since I didn't have a 17mm 6 point socket with me (but did have one at home). Replaced all of the lug nuts after that (every one of them was cracked and on the way to stripping off). This was the first time lug nuts had been removed since I owned the trailer ( one year).

                                A lot of rambling to get to my point, but Home Depot sells a set with a Rigid drill, compact impact (about 225ft/lbs), 2 batteries, and a charger for about $140 and Home Depot warrants them for life (including batteries) and repairs them at their stores that have tool rental centers. I’ve had good experiences with the warranty with a five year old drill repaired and one battery replaced so far.
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