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  • Fifth Wheel Pin Weight

    As we approach the end of our first year with a fifth wheel, I need to make sure that I understand 5th wheel pin weights. My visit to a CAT scale summarized in the table below shows that the trailer weighed 9,680 pounds and added 1,800 pounds to the drive wheels. So a pin weight of 20% of the gross trailer weight would be 1,936 pounds. or about 136 pounds more than what I weighed today. Some online sources state that the pin weight should be at least 20% of the gross trailer weight and should not exceed 25%.

    What are some views on using 20% minimum and 25% maximum pin weights? Should I work at increasing the pin weight?

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    2022 Reflection 280 RS
    2020 Silverado 2500 HD

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    BR549 Most important there is how does it tow and are you under your trucks payload/axle rating. Manufacturers have been starting to reduce pin weight in the engineering of fifth wheels (particularly the 150 series). If you are experiencing sway (rare with any fifth wheel in my experience) then I would be looking at shifting weight forward, but if it is towing okay and you are within the trucks specs I think you should not worry about it.
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    Neil Citro
    2018 Reflection 28BH Pepwave
    2019 F350 6.7L Long Bed Crew Cab

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    • #3
      My previous trailer had a pin weight at 18% of the trailer weight and towed just fine. Don't get caught up in these min/max numbers as gospel.
      Ted
      2021 Reflection 310RLS
      2020 F350 PS,CC,LB,SRW

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      • #4
        Most of the truck manufacturer towing capability charts use 15% as the pin weight for a gooseneck or 5th wheel trailer. There is data to demonstrate that a trailer with less than 10% tongue weight becomes unstable. I have not seen any data on minimum pin weight for stable towing of a 5th wheel trailer . . . but, I don't see how the trailer is going to know whether the tow point is over the axle or at the bumper of the tow vehicle. I would expect that a 5th wheel with a pin weight over 10% would remain stable just like a bumper pull TT. The "guideline" that a 5th wheel trailer should have 20% to 25% of GVW on the pin seems to be a bit of "its always been that way" history with no data to back this up.

        Rob
        Cate & Rob
        (with Border Collies Molly & Angel + Kitties Hazel & Elsie)
        2015 Reflection 303RLS
        2022 F350 Diesel CC SB SRW Lariat
        Bayham, Ontario, Canada

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