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  • #16
    Originally posted by JHC View Post
    Then Unhook trailer and weigh truck? I have that weight from a previous weigh (full tank and just me). How do I figure out tongue webight? Is this correct method?
    You might want to reweigh your truck Friday with full tank and without trailer. I assume you will have more in it then you? Other people, gear, tools, food, etc.? This will give you a more accurate tongue weight number which will be shown in the Results section of the calculator I referenced above.
    2010 Tundra SR5 DC 5.7L
    2020 Imagine XLS 22MLE
    Andersen WDH
    Dexter E-Z Flex Suspension Kit
    2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
    2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid

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    • #17
      I weighed the truck and trailer (some supplies but no water in the tanks) with WDH, w/o WDH, and then solo. I think I am good. See attached. The only weight I am busting is my Rear GAWR by 70 lbs. I had a chair and few things in the bed so I think I can get her back below the Rear GAWR. But, I am installing a set of Roadmasters. I did feel a little porpoising though. Any thoughts?
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      John and Lori
      2018 F150 XLT SCAB 2.7l
      2021 Imagine 22MLE

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      • #18
        Can someone who is more knowledgeable than me comment on my numbers? Thanks.
        John and Lori
        2018 F150 XLT SCAB 2.7l
        2021 Imagine 22MLE

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JHC View Post
          Can someone who is more knowledgeable than me comment on my numbers? Thanks.
          Sorry--I clicked the "Like" button but didn't comment. The front axle (with WDH) is 3240. Truck by itself is 3220. The WDH hitch may be a bit tighter than necessary.

          Truck GVWR is 6500. Truck is 6160 as currently configured. What are the axle GAWRs?

          Trailer GVWR is 6995 and total weight is 5680. That's remarkable. Trailer was loaded for camping? (Food, clothes, etc?)

          When everything is hooked up, is the camper parallel ("level") to the road?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by JHC View Post
            Can someone who is more knowledgeable than me comment on my numbers? Thanks.
            Also, what is your GCWR?

            Our 22mle weight was 5580, that’s ready for camping. We don’t carry water in fresh and generally pack light. Just two of us.
            2010 Tundra SR5 DC 5.7L
            2020 Imagine XLS 22MLE
            Andersen WDH
            Dexter E-Z Flex Suspension Kit
            2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
            2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid

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            • #21
              Originally posted by howson View Post

              Sorry--I clicked the "Like" button but didn't comment. The front axle (with WDH) is 3240. Truck by itself is 3220. The WDH hitch may be a bit tighter than necessary.

              Truck GVWR is 6500. Truck is 6160 as currently configured. What are the axle GAWRs?

              Trailer GVWR is 6995 and total weight is 5680. That's remarkable. Trailer was loaded for camping? (Food, clothes, etc?)

              When everything is hooked up, is the camper parallel ("level") to the road?
              Truck GAWR's - Steer was 3220 and Drive was 2460
              Trailer was loaded modestly but no water. Food, clothes, chairs, and few other items plus set up equipment (blocks, cords, hoses, etc.)
              It road level.
              GCWR was 11,300.
              John and Lori
              2018 F150 XLT SCAB 2.7l
              2021 Imagine 22MLE

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JHC View Post

                Truck GAWR's - Steer was 3220 and Drive was 2460
                Trailer was loaded modestly but no water. Food, clothes, chairs, and few other items plus set up equipment (blocks, cords, hoses, etc.)
                It road level.
                GCWR was 11,300.
                The rear axle's rating can't be 2460. The rating. From the sticker. Not how much it weighed. Please see https://gdrvowners.com/towing-and-hi...ehicle-ratings if my question doesn't make sense (yet).
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by JHC View Post

                  Truck GAWR's - Steer was 3220 and Drive was 2460
                  Trailer was loaded modestly but no water. Food, clothes, chairs, and few other items plus set up equipment (blocks, cords, hoses, etc.)
                  It road level.
                  GCWR was 11,300.
                  These numbers are from another person who has a F-150 2.7l EB and the 22mle. How does your truck’s rating numbers compare to his?

                  TV is 2019 F150 Lariat, 2.7EB, 3.55, tow package, 145" wheelbase (short bed).
                  Front GAWR 3450
                  Rear GAWR 3350
                  GCWR 12,900
                  Payload sticker 1426
                  GVWR 6600
                  Max tow 7600
                  Max tongue 1320 (with WDH)
                  2010 Tundra SR5 DC 5.7L
                  2020 Imagine XLS 22MLE
                  Andersen WDH
                  Dexter E-Z Flex Suspension Kit
                  2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
                  2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by howson View Post

                    The rear axle's rating can't be 2460. The rating. From the sticker. Not how much it weighed. Please see https://gdrvowners.com/towing-and-hi...ehicle-ratings if my question doesn't make sense (yet).
                    Oh, from the stickers:
                    Front GAWR 3450
                    Rear GAWR 3350
                    GVWR 6500
                    Payload - 1379
                    John and Lori
                    2018 F150 XLT SCAB 2.7l
                    2021 Imagine 22MLE

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JHC View Post

                      Oh, from the stickers:
                      Front GAWR 3450
                      Rear GAWR 3350
                      GVWR 6500
                      Payload - 1379
                      In post 17 it states concern about being over the rear axle's GAWR. The weight ticket shows 2920 with the WDH connected--below the 3350 rating. The front axle is also below (3240 measured, 3450 rating) and the GVWR is below (6160 measured, 6500 rating).

                      The numbers (to me) look good. Are you seeing something I'm missing?
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                      • #26
                        Thanks Howson. My mistake on the number. It was busting w/o the WDH hooked up. The numbers are good but what I am experiencing is porpoising. Maybe I have too much weight on the front axle. Adjust the WDH to transfer a little more weight on the rear axle?
                        John and Lori
                        2018 F150 XLT SCAB 2.7l
                        2021 Imagine 22MLE

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JHC View Post
                          Thanks Howson. My mistake on the number. It was busting w/o the WDH hooked up. The numbers are good but what I am experiencing is porpoising. Maybe I have too much weight on the front axle. Adjust the WDH to transfer a little more weight on the rear axle?
                          The only time I experienced porpoising is when I had the air bags in my truck with a high psi (I was experimenting).

                          A fellow forum member pointed out that ny F-350's manual has a specific procedure to properly hook up a WDH hitch (fender height measurements are taken). Does your F-150 have something similar in the manual? I do think there's too much weight pushed forward onto the front axle.

                          Again...I have limited experience with the issue. Hopefully others will chime in.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JHC View Post
                            Thanks Howson. My mistake on the number. It was busting w/o the WDH hooked up. The numbers are good but what I am experiencing is porpoising. Maybe I have too much weight on the front axle. Adjust the WDH to transfer a little more weight on the rear axle?
                            Porposing ( how do you spell that word?) will be generally felt while towing any type of bumper pull trailer. Some times the condition is worst than others but dips or road conditions can cause this in the best set up rigs. Usually I have had this happen when having too much tongue weight. When everything is loaded and hooked up you should have a pretty level sitting unit. Measurements , as Howard has eluded to , will help with this setting. Measuring the truck fenders , front , with the truck loaded and ready to go. Then when you attach the RV and WDH take measurements again. Adjust the WDH until you get close to the original measurement on the front as you can. This should get you pretty close to where you need to be. But again trial and error sometimes is the best thing. When loading the trailer it is easy to add weight here and there that will make the towing different each time. When we had our previous TT I got pretty good at seeing what we were packing and I new whether I needed to change my WDH setup or not, I would usually tighten it up a link or loosen it by a link and had pretty good luck with that.

                            Brian
                            Brian & Michelle
                            2018 Reflection 29RS
                            2022 Chevy 3500HD

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by howson View Post
                              I do think there's too much weight pushed forward onto the front axle.

                              .
                              Of course that usually means too little weight on the back axle which can cause the proposing. Too little weight on the back axle also causes reduce traction for your back/drive axle which can cause problems in the rain/hydroplaning.
                              Charles and Susan
                              2021 Ram 3500 6.4 Hemi, 4x4 CCSB
                              Andersen Hitch
                              2021 Reflection 337rls

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