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  • Distance from Hitch mounting pucks to front wall of F350 short bed

    Doing a bit of research but cant find this information - even in Ford up-fitter guide. For the Ford short bed I need the dimension of the first set of pucks (center lines of puck hole) to the front box wall (near cab). I am trying to determine the clear distance I will have from my Reese R20 hitch mounted on the Reese adapter rail. I have my hitch dimensions and the Reese adapter rail dimensions. I just cant find the puck dimensions and distances to the front of the box. This will also help me figure turning clearance too. Looking at getting a 2020. but I don't think the dimensions have changed in years or will change for 2020.

    Thanks for any help
    Last edited by Yoda; 09-01-2019, 11:18 AM.
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

  • #2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWm...&feature=share

    a sliding hitch is needed for a 6-3/4 bed

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mark & Andrea View Post
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWm...&feature=share

      a sliding hitch is needed for a 6-3/4 bed
      I politely need to disagree. I have the turning point king pin box on my unit, so slider is not needed. However some have indicated that with the Ford 6.5 short bed they have been able to tow without using the turning point or a slider. In addition the nose of my 220RK Reflection is contoured. If someone can provide the measurements I can also determine if the aux tank I want to get will clear too. I hate to go over to my local Ford dealer with a tape measure. Sales folk there are like leaches and even worse know very little about their trucks, towing, and operation of the options. The only one that can get real answers is the fleet manager. The big down side is the are very reluctant to do Ford X Plan. So I take my business to the NM dealer and skip paying city and State sales tax and get the x plan and other incentives. They also have the best service department.

      In case your wondering how I check things out, I make a cardboard template of the trailer nose and a lath to simulate the distance to the king pin. Then place it on my hitch and swing it while checking clearances. It gives me a close approximation to how things will work.
      2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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      • Mark & Andrea
        Mark & Andrea commented
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        Ok a turning point king box is a good idea. Thanks Yoda may the force be with you...😁

    • #4
      Yoda

      This data provides every possible dimension for the Superduty. https://madocumentupload.marketingas...f73ff&v5=False
      Given that your hitch rails will be centered over the axle, it should be possible to figure out the answer to your question.

      Remember that your"template plan" only works on level ground. The clearances change dramatically when the truck is in an uphill turn and the trailer is still level or even coming downhill.

      Rob
      Cate & Rob
      (with Border Collies Molly & Angel + Kitties Hazel & Elsie)
      2015 Reflection 303RLS
      2022 F350 Diesel CC SB SRW Lariat
      Bayham, Ontario, Canada

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      • Yoda
        Yoda commented
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        Rob
        Thanks
        On the new truck I will be using the pucks, but with what's called a rail adapter. Hitch will sit on that.

    • #5
      FWIW-
      On my 2015 F350 CC SB with pucks it's 30.5" center of rear puck hole to back of box.

      Rick,

      2019 Grand Design Reflection 150 273MK
      2015 Ford F350 CC SB Lariat Powerstroke
      PullRite Superglide

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      • Yoda
        Yoda commented
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        Rick
        Thanks very much - now to the calculations.

    • #6
      Well the good news is the aux in bed tank will fit (transfer flow) with about 6" to spare, However it looks like I will need to use the turning point, or get the slider base for my hitch head. At about 65 degrees of turn there is possible contact per my scale drawing I did. I just realized another down side to the short bed (thanks Rob) - stock fuel tank size. Well now to wait for Ford to publish the 2020 data. Should be this month sometime.

      Thanks everyone for the help.
      Keith
      2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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      • #7
        It gets interesting - First - Rick - Thanks again. Rob - I scoured the book in the link, but could not find the pucks - but could be my eyes and not seeing it.

        My local dealer finally got back to me. He measured a 2019 and gave me 29" for short bed and 37" for the long bed. Seems strange so much difference, unless he measured from the puck edge. I had only asked for this information 3 week ago when I dropped by. He said CL, but who knows. Things will still fit.

        However I am revisiting things I will be putting in the bed besides the tank. I made the mistake of asking the DW what should be in there. She wanted to move a few items around. now the bed needs to carry - a dog ramp, tool box (was in bottom of pantry with dog food), generators (2) and Viaair portable air pump plus dog dishes, dog bedding (was on trailer floor), and dog food. Hmmmmmm maybe we need a long bed after all
        2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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        • #8
          And a long bed normally has a 48 gallon tank.
          2019 F250 Lariat
          2020 Solitude S Series 2930RL

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          • #9
            Well - a long bed it will be....now the wait for the Ford rapid specifications to determine what I want, must have, and wish list. Then the important decision - What Color? I may just go white for the first time.
            Thanks for the help folks
            Keith
            2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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            • #10
              Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post
              Yoda

              This data provides every possible dimension for the Superduty. https://madocumentupload.marketingas...f73ff&v5=False
              Given that your hitch rails will be centered over the axle, it should be possible to figure out the answer to your question.

              Remember that your"template plan" only works on level ground. The clearances change dramatically when the truck is in an uphill turn and the trailer is still level or even coming downhill.

              Rob
              This is awesome data. Thanks. It shows that the dimension between centerline of axel and cab is 39.9 inches for f350 ccsb. My question is this. Given I need about 50” for my 310 gk clearance that a 10” slider will not really work. Does a typical hitch install so it is over the c/l of the axel?
              Paul, Judy and Embr
              2021 310 gk
              2019 Ram Mega cab dually diesel

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              • #11
                Paul and judy , the king pin should be centered over or slightly in front of the rear axle.
                John
                2018 Momentum 395M
                2018 Ram 3500 Dually
                Every day is a Saturday, but with no lawn to mow.

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                • #12
                  Originally posted by Paul and judy View Post

                  This is awesome data. Thanks. It shows that the dimension between centerline of axel and cab is 39.9 inches for f350 ccsb. My question is this. Given I need about 50” for my 310 gk clearance that a 10” slider will not really work. Does a typical hitch install so it is over the c/l of the axel?
                  Because of the shape of the front cap and the pin box out slightly in front of this, you don't need half the the width of the trailer (51") to get to a 90 degree turn . . . where you don't want to be anyway! Compare the distance from the hitch (in the aft position on the centreline of the bed) to the corner of the cab . . . which should be more than 50".

                  I have not heard of anyone making contact between cab and 5th wheel with a 10" slider hitch. Many get away with your combination with a fixed location hitch and keep their turns in the 70 degree range which is better for the trailer suspension and tires anyway.

                  Rob
                  Cate & Rob
                  (with Border Collies Molly & Angel + Kitties Hazel & Elsie)
                  2015 Reflection 303RLS
                  2022 F350 Diesel CC SB SRW Lariat
                  Bayham, Ontario, Canada

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                  • #13
                    Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post

                    Because of the shape of the front cap and the pin box out slightly in front of this, you don't need half the the width of the trailer (51") to get to a 90 degree turn . . . where you don't want to be anyway! Compare the distance from the hitch (in the aft position on the centreline of the bed) to the corner of the cab . . . which should be more than 50".

                    I have not heard of anyone making contact between cab and 5th wheel with a 10" slider hitch. Many get away with your combination with a fixed location hitch and keep their turns in the 70 degree range which is better for the trailer suspension and tires anyway.

                    Rob
                    Thanks Rob

                    You put your finger on the nub of my problem. I like the Anderson hitch because it’s so light but I am concerned about not having a slider. We camp in a lot of provincial Parks and sometimes the sites can be pretty tight so that is why I think I need the slider. Really like the super glide by pulltite but I’m concerned that it has no height adjustment LOL been reading the forums for a few weeks now I just got to decide I guess
                    Paul, Judy and Embr
                    2021 310 gk
                    2019 Ram Mega cab dually diesel

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                    • #14
                      Paul and judy,

                      I have the Pullrite super glide 2900 on my F350 CC SB and have plenty of clearance, >6"!

                      Something I have noted is that bed depth seems fairly consistent between trucks. So a fixed hitch height isn't a deal breaker.

                      Rick,

                      2019 Grand Design Reflection 150 273MK
                      2015 Ford F350 CC SB Lariat Powerstroke
                      PullRite Superglide

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                      • #15
                        Originally posted by Paul and judy View Post

                        Thanks Rob

                        You put your finger on the nub of my problem. I like the Anderson hitch because it’s so light but I am concerned about not having a slider. We camp in a lot of provincial Parks and sometimes the sites can be pretty tight so that is why I think I need the slider. Really like the super glide by pulltite but I’m concerned that it has no height adjustment LOL been reading the forums for a few weeks now I just got to decide I guess
                        Hi Paul,

                        I also like the AUH concept . . . but, it comes with other considerations. If you choose to put the cup ahead of the pin to gain clearance from the cab, you bring the wings of the pin box very close to the sides of the truck box in a sharp turn. I have a Reese manual slider hitch . . . which I really like. It doesn’t have the auto hitch wedge to align so can be hitched at any angle. I can see the hitch out the back window when connecting. The trailer reacts more quickly when backing because the connection point is fixed behind the rear axle. There is lots of room between truck and trailer to open/close either the tailgate or the front storage compartment of the trailer.

                        BTW, I like your avatar . . . Embr?

                        Rob
                        Cate & Rob
                        (with Border Collies Molly & Angel + Kitties Hazel & Elsie)
                        2015 Reflection 303RLS
                        2022 F350 Diesel CC SB SRW Lariat
                        Bayham, Ontario, Canada

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