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  • Imagine 2970RL and Wind

    Good morning!

    In yesterday's video, Chad from Changing Lanes was discussing how to prepare for stormy weather. He suggested that you should know at what wind speed you will park the rig. He further suggested asking folks with similar rigs what their protocol is. So that is the basis for my question.

    For those of you with a 2970RL or similar sized travel trailer, (34 feet long, 9000 lbs Gross weight) at what wind speed would you park the rig and wait it out?

    From my own experience, I have towed my 2970RL in up to a 20 mph cross wind at a speed of up to 60 mph. (I normally do not tow above 60 mph). I have experienced such a cross wind in both moderately heavy Interstate traffic, and light traffic on secondary roads. I have not towed in any stronger wind than that. At those wind speeds and vehicle speeds, I never felt uncomfortable with how the rig handled and behaved. I would like for those of you who have towed in high winds to share your experience and limits so I have a better chance of keeping myself out of trouble.

    Thank you!
    Bob
    Bob & Lynne

    2020 Imagine 2970RL
    2019 GMC Sierra 2500 Denali HD 4x4 Duramax

  • #2
    Originally posted by RJAPCOK View Post
    Good morning!

    In yesterday's video, Chad from Changing Lanes was discussing how to prepare for stormy weather. He suggested that you should know at what wind speed you will park the rig. He further suggested asking folks with similar rigs what their protocol is. So that is the basis for my question.

    For those of you with a 2970RL or similar sized travel trailer, (34 feet long, 9000 lbs Gross weight) at what wind speed would you park the rig and wait it out?

    From my own experience, I have towed my 2970RL in up to a 20 mph cross wind at a speed of up to 60 mph. (I normally do not tow above 60 mph). I have experienced such a cross wind in both moderately heavy Interstate traffic, and light traffic on secondary roads. I have not towed in any stronger wind than that. At those wind speeds and vehicle speeds, I never felt uncomfortable with how the rig handled and behaved. I would like for those of you who have towed in high winds to share your experience and limits so I have a better chance of keeping myself out of trouble.

    Thank you!
    Bob
    Not the answer you are looking for but my answer would be that I would pull over when I no longer feel I can drive safely and remain in control. A 20 mph headwind is more manageable than a 20 mph crosswind. I have pulled our 2970RL in winds gusting to 15 mph so far. I felt pretty good with those, they didn't move the trailer at all but I could feel them hit the trailer.

    I know the crews for our City do not go out after a hurricane until the winds are below 35 mph. But that certainly does not apply to an RV.
    Mike & Lisa
    Central Florida
    2021 Imagine 2970RL
    1996 Chevy K3500 Crew SRW 7.4L Gas

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    • #3
      When pulling our TT sustained crosswinds were not as bad as gusting crosswinds. 20MPH cross wind is rough, but I think I was pulling in 25 MPH winds. Worst ones were south of Stratford, Texas. I was pre-warned about the grain silos in town, a lot of people lost control on the other side as they got a false sense of security when they passed behind the silo and the wind died for a few seconds. I was in the right lane, no one to my left, and as I came out the south side of the silos (they were on the west side of the highway), the winds hit me and I ended up in the left lane.

      West Texas I10 the winds were pretty bad. All I can say is sway control is a must in cross winds.
      Joseph
      Tow
      Vehicle: 2024 GMC K3500 Denali Ultimate Diesel
      Coach: 303RLS Delivered March 5, 2021
      South of Houston Texas

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      • #4
        Originally posted by OurNewEra View Post

        Not the answer you are looking for but my answer would be that I would pull over when I no longer feel I can drive safely and remain in control. A 20 mph headwind is more manageable than a 20 mph crosswind. I have pulled our 2970RL in winds gusting to 15 mph so far. I felt pretty good with those, they didn't move the trailer at all but I could feel them hit the trailer.

        I know the crews for our City do not go out after a hurricane until the winds are below 35 mph. But that certainly does not apply to an RV.
        It is the answer I am looking for! At least one of them. Anybody's experience that they can share will be helpful to me. Thank you for taking the time to post.

        Bob
        Bob & Lynne

        2020 Imagine 2970RL
        2019 GMC Sierra 2500 Denali HD 4x4 Duramax

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RJAPCOK View Post

          It is the answer I am looking for! At least one of them. Anybody's experience that they can share will be helpful to me. Thank you for taking the time to pos
          Bob
          Well, info and confession time. First year with our 297RSTS last year. Left to come home in 20mph wind and all was ok til taking them at full cross wind with gusts. A storm was coming up so gusts started and topped at one of approx 50. Most were 30ish gusts. A semi ahead of me slowed to 45mph as did I and stayed behind him. Did not feel safe at all and should have pulled over. I was getting pushed prob 2 feet over in the lane at times. In retrospect, we were very lucky.

          What has been done in the meantime???

          Got rid of my F150 and went to an F350. No matter what the numbers say on the F150 (we were right at payload and under max tow) bigger is better.

          Balanced my trailer a bit better. I had 10% on the tongue last year but trying to go easy on the F150 payload since we were right there at 1800 with wife, dogs, tongue, bla bla. Now I am at about 13 or 14%. Payload be damned. I have 3680 to play with now.

          Ordered a brain enhancement online. I was too caught up in the moment and too stupid to just pull over and wait. NEVER again. From years of boating and some of flying, the worst thing to do is push it. You'll get bit.

          Tried out the new truck yesterday for the first time and with steady 20 cross winds, no problems at all. Better balance and more truck beef made a huge difference.

          ​​​​​​​
          Terry and Patty (Dogs-Sophie and Tessa)
          2020 Reflection 297RSTS - bought Oct 2019
          2021 F350 crew cab, SRW, 6.7L diesel, 14K equal-i-zer hitch

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          • #6
            RJAPCOK As the others have said, what you are comfortable with. There are so many variables that it is hard to put a number on a particular wind speed. Cross winds getting knocked around, head winds with poor fuel consumption and higher vehicle operating temps, following winds that can give you a weird downhill sensation and better fuel milage, they all present different issues. Out here in the west we seldom get no wind towing done. I have decided that if I need both hands on the wheel constantly it is time to slow down and change plans. Lunch, shopping or a long nap are viable options for us when it gets dicey.

            Dave
            flyfshrockies, 2021 imagine 2600RB, Ford F-150, XLT supper crew 3.5 eco boost with max tow. Dave and Toni (and the awesome Aussie Bayley, he's the social one)

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            • #7
              RJAPCOK Like mentioned by Dave, one of the biggest factors is what are you comfortable with in putting yourself and other passengers into. 2 had driving as a must is never a good thing.

              Like i mentioned in my other post, steady winds are challenging, but much easier to deal with than changing gust.

              Not trying to scare you, but let me put wind forces into perspective, 30 mph wind exerts 2.3 lb / sq ft of force on an object (its a squared factor force), negating the shape factors as they can increase or decrease the force seen by an object quite dramatically. Average TT at 25ft x 11ft plus TV at 20ft x 5 ft (average ht) = 375 sq ft. Net force acting on the combination is 863 lbs. That may not sound like a lot, but its a steady force pushing on the combination sideways. It is enough force to flex the tire sidewalls and push you off the road quickly. If we apply the force just to the TT, thats 275 sq ft and 633 lbs. That 633 lbs is roughly divided by the percentage of tongue weight to axle weight respectively to the ball and the axles (some will say its at the center of area). Either way you are putting a side load onto the TT and TV.

              While those numbers do not sound like a lot, comparing to a 15 mph wind, the force is 0.56 lb / sq ft (force divides by 4). At 20 mph the force is 1 lb / sq ft.

              Remember the 2 biggest factors are SAFETY and comfort.
              Joseph
              Tow
              Vehicle: 2024 GMC K3500 Denali Ultimate Diesel
              Coach: 303RLS Delivered March 5, 2021
              South of Houston Texas

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              • #8
                trkester , flyfshrockies Jlawles2 , Thank you all for the feedback and sharing your experience. It is my hope to be able to use those experiences to make a better decision about when to tow it and when to park it, or stay parked. Getting into a wind while enroute is one thing, leaving from home or a campsite on a windy day is another. It has been my experience that when people get themselves into unfortunate circumstances, it is usually because they didn't have enough information to make a good decision. That is what I hope to avoid.

                Bob
                Bob & Lynne

                2020 Imagine 2970RL
                2019 GMC Sierra 2500 Denali HD 4x4 Duramax

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