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    I just ordered a pullrite 2600 which is rated for 20k . Search has brought up a few reviews threads on this hitch, and it seemed like everyone was happy. However it may not be an apple/apples comparison if they aren't towing something my size (381m).

    Anyone else towing the 3 axle 20k gvwr trailers with this hitch? How has your experience been?
    2021 Grand Design Momentum 381m
    2020 Ram 3500 8ft

  • #2
    First welcome to the site. There is a welcome letter that you should read and please set up a signature line of you trailer and tow vehicle. This helps us help you by knowing what you have.

    I will apologize in advance, but I don't really understand the choice as it could void your trailer frame warranty. I don't believe that neither Lippert or GD approves of that style hitch, just like the Anderson AUH. For that price you can get a 25K B&W which is easier to hitch up. Being an engineer I am not a fan of any hitch that requires modification of the way the trailer king pin attaches to the truck.

    Just trying to help.
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Yoda View Post
      First welcome to the site. There is a welcome letter that you should read and please set up a signature line of you trailer and tow vehicle. This helps us help you by knowing what you have.

      I will apologize in advance, but I don't really understand the choice as it could void your trailer frame warranty. I don't believe that neither Lippert or GD approves of that style hitch, just like the Anderson AUH. For that price you can get a 25K B&W which is easier to hitch up. Being an engineer I am not a fan of any hitch that requires modification of the way the trailer king pin attaches to the truck.

      Just trying to help.
      I appreciate the response, signature updated!

      From my understanding, the pullrite is in fact approved and the confusion has come from assuming that these are true gooseneck adapters. Which they are not. If you have authoritative or reliable information that is contrary to this, I would appreciate you sending me a link so I know!

      I do know that B&W is the standard and people love them. But I have scoured the internet far and wide and I haven't seen anyone write anything bad safety wise about the pullrite 2600 though. So I would love to be informed if I am missing something.

      The reason I am going with the pullrite is ease of taking it on and off. I need access to my bed when not towing and from my understanding the B&W hitches are easily 150+ LB. That's a serious amount of weight to keep taking on and off by myself.
      2021 Grand Design Momentum 381m
      2020 Ram 3500 8ft

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      • #4
        Yoda the Pullrite ball adapts to the hitch pin, it does not require a modification.
        Ted
        2021 Reflection 310RLS
        2020 F350 PS,CC,LB,SRW

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TedS View Post
          Yoda the Pullrite ball adapts to the hitch pin, it does not require a modification.
          Ted
          I just looked at the Pullrite site. You are correct the adapter at the king pin does not require modification and appears to be more robust than the AUH, but it is still an adapter.

          timelinex You are correct on the B&W weight. I believe the base is about 130lbs due to the wide stance of the Ram puck system (an assumption you have that), but the head does come off and is only 75 lbs. I bought a hydraulic lift table to help me get it in and out. But the Ford B&W model is lighter..

          My source on voiding frame warrentee was back in 2018 when I was looking at hitches for my new trailer and I initially liked the Pullrite I called both GD and Lippert and asked if it was OK to used with my Reflection 220RK. I was told no by both due to increase stress on the pin box. The only adapter that was approved was the Reese goose neck pin box. Unfortunately that pin box does not fit the Turning Point hitch pin box that is std on the 150 series.. So I suggest calling GD and see if that has changed., but I suspect they will say no as the ball is moved forward from the stock king pin location (possibly an advantage) and will create additional stress on the kin pin mount to the trailer frame.

          Also after looking at the Pullrite adapter install instructions https://www.pullrite.com/sites/defau..._install_0.pdf I noticed that it locks against the king pin with only 2 long 1/2" bolts and the the adapter is retrained in position on the king pin plate by 4 - 3/8" bolt friction points to keep it from moving. That is a whole lot of torsional force being held in place by 4 3/8" bolt heads and the entire unit by 2 - 1/2" bolts, both torqued to 20 ftlbs There is no information on what grade hardware it is, but from the videos it does not appear to be grade 8 color wise. Again this is just my personal observation and opinion. It is a better solution than the AUH, but I will stick to my conventional set up. If you search failures with the hitch there are a few on the adapter plate moving (pivoting on the king pin) in various forms. but no base failures like the AUH.

          I did look at various hitches for my new Ford with the puck system but decided on the B&W 25K based on reviews. You can drive out of in in binding situations once unlocked. Yes the B&W 25K is overkill for my 220RK, just like the truck, but I don't want things coming apart if things go wrong. And in the future I can go bigger if I want.

          Hope this helps understanding where I am coming from. And as I say this is only my opinion for discussion. Just like truck and more important beer brands (Shiner Bock here) all opinions are welcome.

          Safe travels
          Keith
          Last edited by Yoda; 04-22-2022, 01:52 PM.
          2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Yoda View Post

            Ted
            I just looked at the Pullrite site. You are correct the adapter at the king pin does not require modification and appears to be more robust than the AUH, but it is still an adapter.

            timelinex You are correct on the B&W weight. I believe the base is about 130lbs due to the wide stance of the Ram puck system (an assumption you have that), but the head does come off and is only 75 lbs. I bought a hydraulic lift table to help me get it in and out. But the Ford B&W model is lighter..

            My source on voiding frame warrentee was back in 2018 when I was looking at hitches for my new trailer and I initially liked the Pullrite I called both GD and Lippert and asked if it was OK to used with my Reflection 220RK. I was told no by both due to increase stress on the pin box. The only adapter that was approved was the Reese goose neck pin box. Unfortunately that pin box does not fit the Turning Point hitch pin box that is std on the 150 series.. So I suggest calling GD and see if that has changed., but I suspect they will say no as the ball is moved forward from the stock king pin location (possibly an advantage) and will create additional stress on the kin pin mount to the trailer frame.

            Also after looking at the Pullrite adapter install instructions https://www.pullrite.com/sites/defau..._install_0.pdf I noticed that it locks against the king pin with only 2 long 1/2" bolts and the the adapter is retrained in position on the king pin plate by 4 - 3/8" bolt friction points to keep it from moving. That is a whole lot of torsional force being held in place by 4 3/8" bolt heads and the entire unit by 2 - 1/2" bolts, both torqued to 20 ftlbs There is no information on what grade hardware it is, but from the videos it does not appear to be grade 8 color wise. Again this is just my personal observation and opinion. It is a better solution than the AUH, but I will stick to my conventional set up. If you search failures with the hitch there are a few on the adapter plate moving (pivoting on the king pin) in various forms. but no base failures like the AUH.

            I did look at various hitches for my new Ford with the puck system but decided on the B&W 25K based on reviews. You can drive out of in in binding situations once unlocked. Yes the B&W 25K is overkill for my 220RK, just like the truck, but I don't want things coming apart if things go wrong. And in the future I can go bigger if I want.

            Hope this helps understanding where I am coming from. And as I say this is only my opinion for discussion. Just like truck and more important beer brands (Shiner Bock here) all opinions are welcome.

            Safe travels
            Keith
            Thanks for the detailed replied.

            I bought my truck used and it came with a Blue Ox Super Ride that he used. First time I hooked up, it failed a mile down the road during a side street turn. The shoe that accepts the kingpin buckled forward and the kingpin came out and trailer came down on my truck. No idea how it happened as I did the Tug Test and the safety pin was still in the latch. So I'm not sure how it could have came out without the latch handle moving. Luckily I was going a few MPH. The truck bed took alot of damage but luckily the trailer just got a few scratches!

            Anyways, that is all to say that I just experienced a failure and so I really value it not failing. I just haven't found any evidence of failures on the Pullrite (unlike the anderson, as you mentioned). The Blue Ox was super heavy duty and very heavy as well, so I'm not sure I want to use weight as a proxy for reliability. I'm not an expert, but from what I remember, even standard bolt hold ALOT more than most would guess. Those 3/8" bolts pullout weight is in the 1000s of LB each and sheer strength of 10s of thousands. Way more than the forces it could ever experience.

            I may be wrong, so hopefully you or someone else can show me the issue with it!

            2021 Grand Design Momentum 381m
            2020 Ram 3500 8ft

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            • #7
              timelinex I have used both a pullrite 2400 and 2600 hitch on my Solitude, 18K gvw. While I had no failures in approx 10K miles of towing, I grew tired of the constant motion between truck and trailer which I blamed on the hitch. First hitch mounted directly into the BW hole in the bed. Too much motion--I likened the feeling like a large boat underway at slow speed in disturbed water. Next, I dug out my Curt rail adapter for the BW hole--accepts any standard hitch with ISR spacing--and tried that hitch. (I don't remember anymore which is which). An improvement, but still too much motion.

              Upgraded to a used 2019 GMC dually equipped with the factory puck system. All the excuse I needed to ditch the pullrite. (I replaced with a BW companion with the puck system base. Boat motion gone.) My opinion of these hitches, regardless of the rating, is that they are more suitable for a much lighter, shorter trailer. Easiest hitch on the planet to hook up, though. No crawling in the bed or reaching over the side for anything as it is all done from the tailgate area. Both pullrites now for sale.

              I also found no real weight penalty going with the BW. It comes apart into two pieces in a couple of seconds with no tools. The saddle portion weighs around 50 pounds, and in my case, the truck specific puck base weighs 88. The Pullrite for the rails weighed 52 pounds, and the rail adapter was just over 100.

              Dave
              Dave and Darren Bakersfield, CA
              2019 GMC Denali dually 4x4 duramax, BW puck hitch, timbrens
              2015 Chevrolet 3500 CC duramax SB SRW (much loved; replaced with dually)
              2021 Solitude 390 RK-R (3 A/C, solar, gen, 8K axles DP glass), comfort ride shocks, VIN 03584
              Max and Riley, our chihuahua/jack russell furbabies

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