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**Jlawles2** · 08-27-2022, 05:12 PM

I think someone here has done the turning point to goose box conversion. If I remember correctly from the thread, the 150's (typically referred to as half ton towable) have a different bolt pattern in the pin box setup.

As for your exact setup, that may be a bit harder to find. There are a lot of various setups here. Be patient as it may take a bit for an owner to chime in that has the exact setup.

Note the short tabs sticking down here for the turning point. https://gdrvowners.com/towing-and-hi...ng-maintenance

option to the goosebox https://www.etrailer.com/Gooseneck-a...ch/GY48GR.html

**Yoda** · 08-27-2022, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by Jlawles2 View Post

I think someone here has done the turning point to goose box conversion. If I remember correctly from the thread, the 150's (typically referred to as half ton towable) have a different bolt pattern in the pin box setup.

As for your exact setup, that may be a bit harder to find. There are a lot of various setups here. Be patient as it may take a bit for an owner to chime in that has the exact setup.

Note the short tabs sticking down here for the turning point. https://gdrvowners.com/towing-and-hi...ng-maintenance

option to the goosebox https://www.etrailer.com/Gooseneck-a...ch/GY48GR.html

LeonM

I don't think Reese makes a goose box for the turning point (unless new to the market) and the Gen Y is not height adjustable (except for the ball shank you use and shortens the reach, so measure carefully. I believe I posted on the measurements here somewhere when I looked at that option.There may be an issue with the tailgate clearance hooking up at and angle from what I remember. Us the search feature here - lots of information on the Gen Y and Reese goose box Also double check you cargo capacity on your truck as even the models you mention can get up on the pin weight when loaded. I know the basic filth wheel hitch for you truck can get heavy due to Rams wide stance on the pucks, but I have a B&W OEM Companion and love it, Its Alaska proof.

**LeonM** · 08-27-2022, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Jlawles2 View Post

I think someone here has done the turning point to goose box conversion. If I remember correctly from the thread, the 150's (typically referred to as half ton towable) have a different bolt pattern in the pin box setup.

As for your exact setup, that may be a bit harder to find. There are a lot of various setups here. Be patient as it may take a bit for an owner to chime in that has the exact setup.

Note the short tabs sticking down here for the turning point. https://gdrvowners.com/towing-and-hi...ng-maintenance

option to the goosebox https://www.etrailer.com/Gooseneck-a...ch/GY48GR.html

Thanks for the info. I'll definitely keep looking here, and hopefully get some info come my way.

**LeonM** · 09-02-2022, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Yoda View Post

LeonM

I don't thing Reese makes a goose box for the turning point (unless new to the market) and the Gen Y is not height adjustable (except for the ball shank you use and shortens the reach, so measure carefully. I believe I posted on the measurements here somewhere when I looked at that option.There may be an issue with the tailgate clearance hooking up at and angle from what I remember. Us the search feature here - lots of information on the Gen Y and Reese goose box Also double check you cargo capacity on your truck as even the models you mention can get up on the pin weight when loaded. I know the basic filth wheel hitch for you truck can get heavy due to Rams wide stance on the pucks, but I have a B&W OEM Companion and love it, Its Alaska proof.

Thanks for the info. I have been looking at various hitches, which makes things a bit confusing. With that in mind, there is plenty of info here. I don't have the factory pucks on this truck, and will likely have the B&W turnover ball installed if I decide on a gooseneck option. I also know it doesn't help with my payload, but my understanding is air bags can help with weight distribution and leveling out the truck. Wish a 3500 was an option, but it's not. The 303RLS is the trailer we ideally would love to go with, but will look at lighter options....trying to avoid a TT if I can.

**Cate&Rob** · 09-02-2022, 09:40 PM

LeonM

I would expect that a Ram 2500 would be sufficient truck for a Reflection 303RLS. What is your payload? (On the yellow driver’s door jamb . . . the line about contents should never exceed ??? lbs)

Rob

**LeonM** · 09-03-2022, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post

LeonM

I would expect that a Ram 2500 would be sufficient truck for a Reflection 303RLS. What is your payload? (On the yellow driver’s door jamb . . . the line about contents should never exceed ??? lbs)

Rob

Hi Rob. Payload on my 2500 is 2165 #, with 10000 # GVWR...limits our options.

**Cate&Rob** · 09-04-2022, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by LeonM View Post

Hi Rob. Payload on my 2500 is 2165 #, with 10000 # GVWR...limits our options.

Hi Leon . . . you are correct, by the numbers, that’s not quite enough truck for a Reflection 303RLS . . . although there are lots of similar trucks out there towing similar size trailers. Your truck probably weighs about 7800 lbs and was built when 3/4 ton truck payloads were artificially set at 10,000 lbs. The difference being your official payload. In recent years, truck manufacturers seem to have been raising that 10,000 lb limit (and thus the payload) for 3/4 ton trucks . . . without changing much else about the truck.

Rob

**LeonM** · 09-04-2022, 12:56 PM

Thanks Rob. The 303rls is our favorite floor plan due to camp side seating slide. The 295rl is the same floor plan, minus the bedroom slide, which is not horrible. Plus with 295 saves about 400# pin weight it looks like.

**Jlawles2** · 09-04-2022, 03:42 PM

LeonM the hitch weight shown is as it cools off the assembly line (from what I understand). I tow a 303 with a 2500 Denali and an auto slider. Technically I am over gross on the truck, but under axle weight on the rear fully dressed ready to roll.

If you stick with the recommended 20%-25% hitch weight you are looking at 20% of 10,995lbs = 2,199 lbs vs 20% of 11,995 lbs 2399 lbs, and at 25% 10,995lbs = 2,625 lbs vs 2,999 lbs.

Until you get a unit, load it, and weight it you will not be certain of pin weight. If pin weight is too much, you learn how to pack a bit differenlty. I.E. move things to the back beside the sofa from the front as this is a double plus on reducing pin weight.

**LeonM** · 09-04-2022, 06:18 PM

Jlawles2 thanks. I only have experience with loaded bumper pulls, so I know payload works a little differently. It will be just the wife and I, and I don’t imagine coming close to the 10995 of the 295rl with what we will load. But, figuring out how to load will certainly help, so thanks for that. Learn as we go I suppose.

**Gr8fulcamper!** · 09-04-2022, 11:46 PM

No Goosebox but my GenY showed up, hope to have it installed tomorrow………

**Yoda** · 09-05-2022, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by Gr8fulcamper! View Post

No Goosebox but my GenY showed up, hope to have it installed tomorrow………

Please post pictures and measurement - especially bed rail clearance and install pictures. I addition any issues with tailgate clearance. I believe your the first here to do this install on a 150 series.

I am curious as in my measurements from the web page information it would not work for me,

Safe Travels
Keith

**Gr8fulcamper!** · 09-05-2022, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Yoda View Post

Please poet pictures and measurement - especially bed rail clearance and install pictures. I addition any issues with tailgate clearance. I believe your the first here to do this install on a 150 series.

I am curious as in my measurements from the web page information it would not work for me,

Safe Travels
Keith

I searched all over and didn’t find anyone that had attempted it so I said the heck with it, I’m gonna try and see what happens. Doubt I’ll get it done today, plans “changed”……….
I will post pics and measurements, next day or so I hope!

**WondersAwait** · 09-05-2022, 03:33 PM

I have about 2k miles on my Gen Y now and really like it. I absolutely noticed the ride smooth out after a "break in" period; they advertise roughly 1k miles but we noticed it getting much smoother after about 600.

I installed it myself (with the help of my wife and ncitro) and it went pretty well. Take your time and good luck. Definitely check the torque on bolts after about 100 miles of towing.

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