Hanging pictures

[Country Campers]

Festus500

I removed the phone number from your post above. Use the private message feature for off board communications.

Also please post some photos of the items that you used for these installations.

Brian

[Festus500]

I know it's been 4 months since Festus500 has been on the forum, but I'm attempting to hang a hand towel rack right now on the exterior wall of the bathroom on an Imagine 2800BH.

How long of a screw / anchor did you use? (Most of the anchor I have on hand are 1 1/4", and I feel those are too long)

I did find this on homedepot's site, they seem like they will work, and are only 1 in deep
https://www.homedepot.com/p/E-Z-Anco...oduct-overview

Is there 1 inch on the outside wall? I don't want to pierce the exterior lamination. That would be a horrible situation.
It really boils down, how thick is the laminated wall on an Imagine?

I did find this 7/8th anchor as well:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/4-6-x-7-...3802/204273412

Just a note. The wife has given the no signal on mounting a piece of plywood to span the studs, and then mounting the towel bar. So wall anchors are my only option.

MPKing - For EACH wall I planned to hang pictures and coat racks etc, I drilled a small hole and measured the depth with a machinist caliper. I used girthier plastic style anchors that I trimmed to custom length and used shorter screws that I purchased separately. Note after doing this work I drove from FL to AK up the ALCAN highway - none of this work budged. Message me if you need help.

[Cate&Rob]

mpking
Hi Mike,

I cannot find anything definitive on the thickness of the exterior walls of an Imagine. They are going to be in the 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" range. To be sure, a pair of calipers (or a loosely adjusted C clamp and count the turns to remove it) at a door or window would confirm this for sure. I would be inclined to use the coarse thread anchor (for hollow door) as shown in your first link. I have used these in drywall and they are much more secure than the expanding plastic anchor. This first style also comes in plastic.

Rob

[mpking]

Thanks ALL for your assistance. A couple lessons observed.

General - I elected to use girthier plastic anchors for better holding power (#8 and #10). Good call on using an electricity finder. I made sure screws were not too long by testing with a depth probe. I also used the anchors that splay out two different ways (hilt and tip) - Home Depot. I found that exterior walls are more rigid than interior due to Styrofoam. Styrofoam did not get in way of anchor.

My apologies - I tried to load up a picture or two, but it is not working tonight

I know it's been 4 months since Festus500 has been on the forum, but I'm attempting to hang a hand towel rack right now on the exterior wall of the bathroom on an Imagine 2800BH.

How long of a screw / anchor did you use? (Most of the anchor I have on hand are 1 1/4", and I feel those are too long)

I did find this on homedepot's site, they seem like they will work, and are only 1 in deep
https://www.homedepot.com/p/E-Z-Anco...oduct-overview

Is there 1 inch on the outside wall? I don't want to pierce the exterior lamination. That would be a horrible situation.
It really boils down, how thick is the laminated wall on an Imagine?

I did find this 7/8th anchor as well:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/4-6-x-7-...3802/204273412

Just a note. The wife has given the no signal on mounting a piece of plywood to span the studs, and then mounting the towel bar. So wall anchors are my only option.

[howson]

TheHarts -- moved your question to it's own thread here: https://gdrvowners.com/forum/exterio...long-horns-how

[Festus500]

Thanks ALL for your assistance. A couple lessons observed.

General - I elected to use girthier plastic anchors for better holding power (#8 and #10). Good call on using an electricity finder. I made sure screws were not too long by testing with a depth probe. I also used the anchors that splay out two different ways (hilt and tip) - Home Depot. I found that exterior walls are more rigid than interior due to Styrofoam. Styrofoam did not get in way of anchor.

My apologies - I tried to load up a picture or two, but it is not working tonight

[howson]

This is true for the exterior walls JBill9694 has mentioned the interior walls. All of the interior walls throughout GD lines are wooden structures.

Brian

Doh! I missed that nuance. My apologies, JBill9694 -- you're absolutely right.

[Country Campers]

Only true for the Transcend line, John. All the rest of the GD products have aluminum framed walls with foam sandwiched between thin layers of paneling and the exterior.

This is true for the exterior walls JBill9694 has mentioned the interior walls. All of the interior walls throughout GD lines are wooden structures.

Brian

[howson]

Interior walls are wood construction...

Only true for the Transcend line, John. All the rest of the GD products have aluminum framed walls with foam sandwiched between thin layers of paneling and the exterior.

[JBill9694]

Interior walls are wood construction (2x2 if I remember correctly) but don't expect typical uniform spacing. Sheeting on each side is 1/4" or less. Stud finder will work, just be aware of where there may be vent pipes for the plumbing, and using a locality sensor for electric wiring is also a good idea. Many of us have mounted backer boards to the wall surfaces, anchored to the studs, and then hung the towel rods, coat hangers and so on to these. It is unlikely that you'll find studs in either outer or inner walls where you want them.

[Steve7]

If I remember correctly, I used the small plastic type anchors in the the bathroom to install the towel racks. I’m talking about the straight skinny anchors you insert after pre drilling.the interior bathroom walls shouldn’t have any styrofoam that could get in the way.

[Country Campers]

I have a few more questions to add to this Great first question along with answers and ideas on how to reduce weight protect from breakage.

2. How thick is the paneling in a circa 2020 29G Momentum? - there are some very high quality anchors out there but you need to know wall thickness.

2. How are the exterior walls constructed and what materials are used to construct interior and exterior walls? A pictures is worth a thousand words

3. How are the Interior walls constructed and what materials are used to construct interior and exterior walls? A pictures is worth a thousand words

4. If you do NOT want to use tape or glue, what kind of anchors have people found to work?

I'm adding towel and coat racks to make the rig more functional - IMO that will increase value of trailer.

2020 Momentum 29

I am not sure of the thickness of the interior paneling , but will be less than 1/4". All of the exterior walls will be laminated on the 29G. This means that the exterior and interior panels will be laminated to the wall structure , aluminum frame work. In the space between the interior and exterior panels there will be white rigid foam. Using a slip thru anchor that expands inside the wall may be a little tricky with the foam inside the wall. Using a stud finder you will be able to locate studs in the walls to anchor items to.

Brian

[ThePowells]

Thanks. This is going to be our only camper. We sold our house and bought this to be with our daughter and her family and leave memories for our grand daughter when we travel. We lived in Fayetteville NC for 35 years; now we are no-mads. 😆

Kelly grew up in Fayetteville (military brat). Her father retired as a Green Beret SGM.

[Festus500]

I have a few more questions to add to this Great first question along with answers and ideas on how to reduce weight protect from breakage.

2. How thick is the paneling in a circa 2020 29G Momentum? - there are some very high quality anchors out there but you need to know wall thickness.

2. How are the exterior walls constructed and what materials are used to construct interior and exterior walls? A pictures is worth a thousand words

3. How are the Interior walls constructed and what materials are used to construct interior and exterior walls? A pictures is worth a thousand words

4. If you do NOT want to use tape or glue, what kind of anchors have people found to work?

I'm adding towel and coat racks to make the rig more functional - IMO that will increase value of trailer.

2020 Momentum 29G

[Tom in PGH]

You can also replace the glass, in the frames with lightweight plastic. You can either buy a larger piece and cut it to size or, Wallyworld has inexpensive frames that have plastic in them. You could buy the cheap frame and just use the plastic from it. That would keep the hanging as light as possible.