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Just to add that Howard's wiring "discoveries" when he dropped the coroplast are not unusual at all. This is the construction standard of the towable RV industry as "regulated" by their RVIA inspections that we all pay a premium for. Not even in the same game as the requirements of residential/automotive/marine/aviation.
Attached are pictures from my Reflection 303RLS when I dropped the coroplast.
Rob
Rob,
I'm still laughing. The auto industry would be out of business with this system.
Just to add that Howard's wiring "discoveries" when he dropped the coroplast are not unusual at all. This is the construction standard of the towable RV industry as "regulated" by their RVIA inspections that we all pay a premium for. Not even in the same game as the requirements of residential/automotive/marine/aviation.
Attached are pictures from my Reflection 303RLS when I dropped the coroplast.
Rob
How is your NEC casual reading going?
Curtis, Christine, Cole, and Charlotte
2007 Chevrolet Silverado Duramax LBZ, CCLB
2020 Momentum 351M
2004 Essex Vortex
Several years ago, Curtis provided me with a copy of the NEC (US National Electrical Code) . . . all 1345 pages of it! as part of some electrical discussion that we were having. Definitely a good reference document . . . but, not casual reading .
It is interesting how RVIA uses this document (intended for things that don't bounce down the road) as their authority for appropriate electrical wiring and connections in RVs. And then, don't enforce anything anywhere close to even the NEC standards, for wire routing and securing.
RVIA should have a look as ABYC (American Boat & Yacht Council) for wiring requirements for things that get bounced around.
RVIA should have a look as ABYC (American Boat & Yacht Council) for wiring requirements for things that get bounced around.
Rob
It's nuts that there is an INSPECTED/EXPECTED standard for residential/commercial and boating, but in the RV world it's just "Meh".
They would be able to to save A LOT of time and wiring AND increase safety exponentially IF the implemented a simple conduit system to the frames and walls. Imagine if you will, a conduit system built in to the frames that stubs up. Then built in to the walls, you have the matching receiving end of the conduits. When the walls lock down, the two conduit systems meet. After that, you just pull wire.
Off the box.
Curtis, Christine, Cole, and Charlotte
2007 Chevrolet Silverado Duramax LBZ, CCLB
2020 Momentum 351M
2004 Essex Vortex
It's nuts that there is an INSPECTED/EXPECTED standard for residential/commercial and boating, but in the RV world it's just "Meh".
The part that drives me nuts is that we each pay a fee to have RVIA "inspect" our RVs . . . and they put a numbered sticker on every one saying that they have done this. A few years ago, I tried to dig into how this works, who does it and what they check for. As near as I can tell . . . all you get for that fee is a meaningless sticker. Even if they checked wiring to the most basic NEC standards, no towable RV would pass.
They would be able to to save A LOT of time and wiring AND increase safety exponentially IF the implemented a simple conduit system to the frames and walls. Imagine if you will, a conduit system built in to the frames that stubs up. Then built in to the walls, you have the matching receiving end of the conduits. When the walls lock down, the two conduit systems meet. After that, you just pull wire.
Off the box.
My point exactly. Material cost, excess wiring. Efficient electrical runs that are common from Rig to Rig. Modular to a point. This is what the Auto Industry does.
Gary F
2020 Solitude 375RES-R
2019 Ford Super Duty diesel Dually
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