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    5th wheel weight hitch weight

    Hello all,

    I made the mistake of purchasing a truck based on the total weight of the 5th wheel and have figured out that I am over on CCC by about 500lb hitched up and with the 5th wheel loaded. My question today is has anyone done any counter balancing with weight on a 5th wheel? Like adding 300lb to the rear of the frame? Unfortunately its a rear living and the basement and cargo holds are in front of the axels. When I use the only tank behind the axels (fresh water) as ballast it only takes off 120lb. I has a rear hitch, I could add 300lb there bit I would have to put it on and off every trip, I would rather do something perinate. Any thoughts? I don't want to move to a DW set up if I can get away with it..
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    Originally posted by FreddieD View Post
    I don't want to move to a DW set up if I can get away with it..
    I can't address your question specifically, but permit me to opine for moment to (unfortunately) write I think you'll eventually be inducted into the infamous Two Time Tow Vehicle club. Trust me, you are far from alone. I made a similar mistake and ended up trading my brand new (sniff) F-250 in on the used DRW I have now. (Same year, same trim--amazing how similar they are!)

    When all was said and done I figured it cost me an additional $5K over what it would have been if I'd just done it right the first time. One of those "life lessons". I don't regret getting the right truck for the weight I carry (Honda Goldwing in the truck bed and towing a maxxed-out 315RLTS).

    Howard

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    • #3
      Hey there. How is it that you know you are overweight? Are you using actual weights on a truck scale loaded as you would be for a typical trip, with your passengers aboard the truck? Also, what RV did you buy, and what truck and hitch do you have? I gained over 300 pounds of pin weight capacity just by changing out my hitch. Your truck has specified axle weights (GAWR), but also tire capacity listed on the sidewall with inflation data. What exactly is over? Does the RV ride level in relation to the truck? Nose high or low will slightly affect the pin weight.
      Dave and Darren Bakersfield, CA
      2019 GMC Denali dually 4x4 duramax, BW puck hitch, timbrens
      2015 Chevrolet 3500 CC duramax SB SRW (much loved; replaced with dually)
      2021 Solitude 390 RK-R (3 A/C, solar, gen, 8K axles DP glass), comfort ride shocks, VIN 03584
      Max and Riley, our chihuahua/jack russell furbabies

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FreddieD View Post
        Hello all,

        I made the mistake of purchasing a truck based on the total weight of the 5th wheel and have figured out that I am over on CCC by about 500lb hitched up and with the 5th wheel loaded. My question today is has anyone done any counter balancing with weight on a 5th wheel? Like adding 300lb to the rear of the frame? Unfortunately its a rear living and the basement and cargo holds are in front of the axels. When I use the only tank behind the axels (fresh water) as ballast it only takes off 120lb. I has a rear hitch, I could add 300lb there bit I would have to put it on and off every trip, I would rather do something perinate. Any thoughts? I don't want to move to a DW set up if I can get away with it..
        For the record, I was replying to the OP. Dave
        Dave and Darren Bakersfield, CA
        2019 GMC Denali dually 4x4 duramax, BW puck hitch, timbrens
        2015 Chevrolet 3500 CC duramax SB SRW (much loved; replaced with dually)
        2021 Solitude 390 RK-R (3 A/C, solar, gen, 8K axles DP glass), comfort ride shocks, VIN 03584
        Max and Riley, our chihuahua/jack russell furbabies

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        • #5
          Thanks for the reply's, I know I am overweight because I weighed it on a cat scale, My calc's are below. As DarnDave said above
          " inducted into the infamous Two Time Tow Vehicle club"
          Do I need to dress up for the awards or will shorts and a tee shirt work?
          ACTUAL
          12/5 fuel, driver, 1 passenger
          12/14 fuel driver, puck
          1/29 fuel, driver, puck, hitch, trailer w/Prop+ Batteries
          2/1 Fuel, Driver ,puck, hitch, trailer , 85% loaded
          2/3 Fuel, Driver ,puck, hitch, trailer , 85% loaded+ 80 gal fresh water
          Scales 12/5/2020 1/14/2021 1/29/2021 2/1/2021 2/3/2021
          Front 4940 4780 4860 4840 4840
          Rear 3300 3320 6320 6520 6380
          10500 10880 11620
          Total 21680 22240 22840
          5th Wheel Hitch including Curt 3080
          5th Wheel Hitch including Curt and Cargo 3260 3120
          Hitch Weight Needed
          10% 15% 20%
          14140 1414 2121 2828
          0 0 0
          2/1/2021 2/3/2021
          Truck Truck
          GVW -560 -420
          Cargo -13 127
          Rear Axel -180 -40
          Front Axel 360 360
          The Cargo above removes the fuel included in the truck weight
          Hitch weight needed
          10% 15% 20%
          11620 1162 1743 2324
          14740 1474 2211 2948
          F 250 Manufacturer
          GCWR 30000 Gross Combined Weight Rating Front Axel GAWR 5200
          GVWR 10800 Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Rear Axel GAWR 6340
          MTR 19100 Max Tow Rating 5th Wheel Truck GVWR 10800
          VTWR 3820 Vertical Towing Weight Rating Truck Curb >>>>>>>> 7262
          3023 tire tag max Cargo

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          • #6
            When all was said and done I figured it cost me an additional $5K over what it would have been if I'd just done it right the first time. One of those "life lessons". I don't regret getting the right truck for the weight I carry (Honda Goldwing in the truck bed and towing a maxxed-out 315RLTS).

            Howson, wish I was that lucky, looks like it will be costing me 15K

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