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    I have a 397TH with auxiliary tank. When I fill the fresh water tank per manual,, The rear overflow spills and I stop. I go inside to check onecontrol and It only reads 1/3 . I tried to fill from the auxiliary water fill. and again, only the rear overflow went. It filled for another 10 min. I went inside and now shows 2/3. How do I get the forward tank to overflow and get the fresh water to read full. What am i doing wrong?

  • #2
    d2reid

    Can you help this owner?

    Other 397TH owners have any input?

    Brian
    Brian & Michelle
    2018 Reflection 29RS
    2022 Chevy 3500HD

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    • #3
      Not a 397TH owner, but do have the auxiliary water tank, so will pitch in here. First to make sure we start off on the same page, the two tanks are connected by a small diameter line (I haven't actually looked at this line so some supposition here). Probably about 1/2" diameter and hopefully running level between the two tanks. As the primary tank fills, some water flows into the auxiliary tank, usually not as quick the primary tank is filling so the primary tank overflows before the auxiliary tank is completely full. If allowed to sit, the water level in the two tanks will equalize, or the auxiliary tank fill can be used to top of the auxiliary tank.

      When water in the tanks is withdrawn via the water pump, it is pulled from the primary tank. Water in the auxiliary tank will then flow into the primary tank through the restricted connection to equalize the water level in both tanks. BTW, it is possible to drain the primary tank and still have water in the auxiliary tank, just wait until the auxiliary tank has time to recharge the primary tank.

      Now here is the weird part. I too have had the auxiliary tank overflow start passing water before the primary tank overflow does, while filling the primary tank. This has happened after I have used some of the water out of the primary tank and am topping the water off for the next two to three days. (I have not had this happen when starting with both tanks drained.) For this too happen, the water level in the auxiliary tank has to be higher than that in the primary tank, which is not impossible, and there has to be pressure in the primary tank that is forcing water into the auxiliary tank so that it fills before the primary tank. Since the overflow should also be acting as an air vent, this should not be possible, but it is happening.

      This might be related to the dreaded siphoning effect that others have reported, but even then the primary tank would have to be pressurized to start the siphoning. And on my tanks, at least, there is not an excessive amount of water from the overflow so I don't think it is really siphoning.

      So in response to Mike Labath : Beats the S___ out of me. Let me know what you find out.
      John
      2018 Momentum 395M
      2018 Ram 3500 Dually
      Every day is a Saturday, but with no lawn to mow.

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      • #4
        GDRV-Megan

        Is there anything that you could add to the question in post #1.

        How does the fresh water tank system work?

        Brian
        Brian & Michelle
        2018 Reflection 29RS
        2022 Chevy 3500HD

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mike Labath View Post
          I have a 397TH with auxiliary tank. When I fill the fresh water tank per manual,, The rear overflow spills and I stop. I go inside to check onecontrol and It only reads 1/3 . I tried to fill from the auxiliary water fill. and again, only the rear overflow went. It filled for another 10 min. I went inside and now shows 2/3. How do I get the forward tank to overflow and get the fresh water to read full. What am i doing wrong?
          bob - has a 397 and possibly he may chime in and have some feedback. Thanks, in advance Bob !

          Dan
          Dan & Carol
          2014 303RLS Reflection #185 (10/2013 build)
          2012 Silverado LTZ Crew Duramax 2500HD - 2700/16K Pullrite Superglide

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Country Campers View Post
            d2reid

            Can you help this owner?

            Brian
            Sorry, single fresh water tank.
            2017 Momentum 376, 2019 Ford F450
            2022 Triumph Scrambler Motorcycle
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            • #7
              After I hit Post on #3 it occurred to me that the overflow inlet on the auxiliary tank may be mounted lower than the overflow inlet on the primary tank. If that is the case then the following scenarios are possible:

              Starting with both tanks empty and using the primary tank fill; The primary tank will fill faster than the auxiliary tank and so water flow out of the primary tank overflow first.

              Starting with both tanks full to just below the overflow inlet lip on the auxiliary tank and using the primary tank fill; The primary tank will still fill faster than the auxiliary tank, but if the auxiliary tank water level is right at the lip (invert) of its overflow inlet water can flow out of the auxiliary tank overflow before it flows out of the primary tank overflow.

              Starting with both tanks holding water, but with the water level well below the auxiliary tank overflow lip and using the primary tank fill; The primary tank will still fill faster than the auxiliary tank and water will flow out of the primary tank overflow first.

              What all this means is that regardless of which overflow the water first flows out, the tanks will drain until their water level is equal and even with the lip of the lowest overflow intake.
              John
              2018 Momentum 395M
              2018 Ram 3500 Dually
              Every day is a Saturday, but with no lawn to mow.

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              • #8
                rickcwagner -- moved your question to it's own thread. See https://gdrvowners.com/forum/operati...s-on-panel-why
                Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.

                Howard & Francine
                2017 Ford F-350 DRW, '19 315RLTSPlus

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                • #9
                  In my mind I wonder how much effect is caused by the leveling of the r.v.?

                  Dave
                  flyfshrockies, 2021 imagine 2600RB, Ford F-150, XLT supper crew 3.5 eco boost with max tow. Dave and Toni (and the awesome Aussie Bayley, he's the social one)

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                  • #10
                    I think there are several factors that could be influenced the water level reading and the overflows, flyfshrockies , the leveling of the RV is certainly one of them. The location of the overflows, height wise, to each other, the size and routing of the line connecting the two tanks, and if one of the overflows is plugged are other factors as well as the actual installation of the sensors (still haven't ruled out that the sensors are not properly installed and functioning. But at the end of the day, the two tanks should level out to the same atmospheric water level.
                    John
                    2018 Momentum 395M
                    2018 Ram 3500 Dually
                    Every day is a Saturday, but with no lawn to mow.

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