Inspection has revealed that it is a leaf spring system with DRY BOLTS. Has anyone looked into having these replaced with WET BOLTS and possibly with a MOR/ryde system (or something similar)?
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I moved up from a Westlake ST205/75R15 (had no issue with them) to the Goodyear Endurance E rated ST225/75R15. The ST225/75R15 tire has a one inch increase in diameter which means you will lose 1/2inch on the tire to floor clearance. Keep that in mind. Since the E rated tire will provide you with an increase in durability, you will not need to inflate those to the max sidewall pressure on the tire. It would result in a harsh ride with no benefit. I use Goodyear's inflation tables and inflate mine from 60 to 65 psi based on my loading.
MORryde supplies a measurement sheet on their website so you can check several dimensions to see if they will work for you.
GoodYear Endurance Inflation Tables.pdf
Hope this helps.
JimLast edited by Guest; 01-27-2020, 06:22 PM.
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Originally posted by MidwestCamper View PostI moved up from a Westlake ST205/75R15 (had no issue with them) to the Goodyear Endurance E rated ST225/75R15. The ST225/75R15 tire has a one inch increase in diameter which means you will lose 1/2inch on the tire to floor clearance. Keep that in mind. Since the E rated tire will provide you with an increase in durability, you will not need to inflate those to the max sidewall pressure on the tire. It would result in a harsh ride with no benefit. I use Goodyear's inflation tables and inflate mine from 60 to 65 psi based on my loading.
MORryde supplies a measurement sheet on their website so you can check several dimensions to see if they will work for you.
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Hope this helps.
Jim
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Originally posted by MidwestCamper View PostNot sure what size 14" tire you have but looking on a Goodyear inflation chart shows the ST215/75R15 will handle 2200lbs. With your 7000lb GVW it looks like there is some cushion.
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Originally posted by Refclown View Post
. I cannot figure why they would use a 14" tire on this trailer...
8,160# - 6,295# = 1,865 pounds of excess tire capacity over a fully loaded trailer. That is a huge amount of buffer and shows that the tire meets the minimum needs by 30%! It looks like a very appropriate tire selection.
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Refclown,
You had asked about the MORryde CRE3000 and wet bolts where you will need to take some measurements to see if this is possible where I agree with Jim that your tire capacity is not an issue. Is there a reason you want to move to a 15 inch tire?
Jim
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Refclown, we have the XLS 22MLE with Westlake ST205/75R14 tires and agree with TucsonJim on capacity. In the future I may replace them with Goodyear Endurance with the same size. I was pleased with the GY Endurance I put on my previous trailer.
I used my Sherline tongue weight scale which was 600# wet on our first camping trip. We always pack light and don’t carry water in the tanks.
As for the suspension upgrade, I am interested in that subject too and may consider that in a year or so. This is our 1st trailer with leaf-springs. When the time comes I would be looking at MORryde CRE3000 as mentioned above by MidwestCamper or Dexter EZ Flex, but I don’t see this as a necessary mod at the moment rather down the road sometime.2010 Tundra SR5 DC 5.7L
2020 Imagine XLS 22MLE
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Originally posted by Tigger1 View PostRefclown, we have the XLS 22MLE with Westlake ST205/75R14 tires and agree with TucsonJim on capacity. In the future I may replace them with Goodyear Endurance with the same size. I was pleased with the GY Endurance I put on my previous trailer.
I used my Sherline tongue weight scale which was 600# wet on our first camping trip. We always pack light and don’t carry water in the tanks.
As for the suspension upgrade, I am interested in that subject too and may consider that in a year or so. This is our 1st trailer with leaf-springs. When the time comes I would be looking at MORryde CRE3000 as mentioned above by MidwestCamper or Dexter EZ Flex, but I don’t see this as a necessary mod at the moment rather down the road sometime.
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Refclown
There are two ways to come at "improving" your original nylon bushings and dry bolt suspension. This OE combination is good for a few thousand miles at best.
You can keep the dry bolts if you go to LCI "Never Fail" bushings. These are some kind of high tech plastic and installation instructions are specific that these are NOT to be used with wet bolts or any grease. My personal experience with these is that they didn't fit some of the locations that they were supposed to.
I eventually went with tried-and-true bronze bushing and wet bolts. The MORryde kit that I installed came with shackle plates that were 3x as thick as the originals. This was three years and many thousands of miles ago. Still working as new with very little wear. I grease them twice a year.
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Rob
Thanks for the suspension info. After reading a few different forums I’m leaning towards MORryde CRE3000 over Dexter. I’d do it myself but don’t have the jacks etc.
We are attending the Mid Atlantic GD Rally in Urbana VA in October, does anyone know if MORryde techs are there and if they do suspension upgrades?2010 Tundra SR5 DC 5.7L
2020 Imagine XLS 22MLE
Andersen WDH
Dexter E-Z Flex Suspension Kit
2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid
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Rob,
I noticed that when I did the qualification form from Morryde, my 23bhe would not work because the hangers are not wide enough (you need 3 inch wide hangers, 1.5 inches from center on each side of the bolt). I assume your XLS has the same. Any thoughts on that? The Dexter seems to be a direct fit.
andy
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Originally posted by Mudhendriver View PostRob,
I noticed that when I did the qualification form from Morryde, my 23bhe would not work because the hangers are not wide enough (you need 3 inch wide hangers, 1.5 inches from center on each side of the bolt). I assume your XLS has the same. Any thoughts on that? The Dexter seems to be a direct fit.
andy
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