Bolts missing on disc brake Momentum 320G

[howson]

Wileykid -- try Bontrager's Surplus in White Pigeon, MI. 866-483-7017 Went there today (got a bunch of minor stuff) and there is a whole section outside with used wheels.

[Wileykid]

Update on this issue, Dexter is warrantying the repairs needed with new parts, they just have not committed to replacing the rim. They want to know the price on the rim, which I have found out after a lot of calling and searching, one can not buy just the rim, you can only buy it with a new tire mounted on it. Seems kinda stupid as my tire is still good. Contacted several shops on possible repairing the rim, but no one wants to touch it.

[Wileykid]

They did not mention using Loctite when I was talking to them, and I did not think about asking about it. I was talking to one of the warranty guys, and was surprised that he had that info already pulled up. I looked at the washers on the other axles, and they are the split type. I do not see any evidence of any Loctite.

Cate&Rob good picture, on my trailer, the bolts are the opposite direction for whatever reason, and checking the torque is going to be difficult for the upper two as the u-clamps for the axle are in the way. If the bottom two bolts check out, I am not going to worry about the upper two, otherwise I will need to pull the wheel. Or I am just going to wait, as I told Dexter that the trailer is not moving, and repairs will need to be done in my driveway.

I have been thinking, and the only explanation of this occurring I can come up with, is that they hand threaded the bolts on, and never went back to torque them. Hand tight or a couple of turns of a socket wrench tight with the lock washers, I could see lasting for some time than going, but tightened down, much less torqued down with those washers, I just don't see one, much less all four going.

[Cate&Rob]

Blue? Green? Red? All I know is there's several different types for different applications--which one is appropriate for these bolts, Rob?

Looking more closely at this and comparing to the similar Titan EoH trailer brakes that I installed myself, I note that these attachments are nuts and bolts, using lock washers. Dexter acquired Titan a few years ago, so I suspect that the system Dexter supplies to Grand Design has its roots in the Titan design. I would still use a bit of blue Loctite (which I use on most things that I bolt together) but looking back through the Titan installation instructions, these make no mention of Loctite.

Rob

[RoyB]

Blue? Green? Red? All I know is there's several different types for different applications--which one is appropriate for these bolts, Rob?

I Would think RED since it's not a bolt you want coming out anytime soon.

[howson]

Did Dexter mention the use of Loctite? This is a "best practice" for bolted connections such as this.

Rob

Blue? Green? Red? All I know is there's several different types for different applications--which one is appropriate for these bolts, Rob?

[Cate&Rob]

Dexter service said it is 75 ftlbs

Did Dexter mention the use of Loctite? This is a "best practice" for bolted connections such as this.

Rob

[Wileykid]

I've searched my sources and can't find the torque value for those bolts. Hopefully, Dexter will provide it for you.

Jim

Dexter service said it is 75 ftlbs

[TucsonJim]

I've searched my sources and can't find the torque value for those bolts. Hopefully, Dexter will provide it for you.

Jim

[Wileykid]

Axle warranty is different than trailer warranty. IIRC Dexter has a 5 year almost no questions asked warranty.

Thanks, looked that up this morning, and email to Dexter warranty has been sent.

[Jlawles2]

Axle warranty is different than trailer warranty. IIRC Dexter has a 5 year almost no questions asked warranty.

[Wileykid]

The axles/discs are the factory upgrade done on the assembly line. All the other bolts look good, but I need to find out the torque setting and check them. Sent an email to GD, but sure it will be a bit before they respond, also going to send an email to Dexter and see what they say. I would think the axle/brake assembly comes complete from Dexter to GD as it is all Dexter parts. I need to get the bolt size and torque setting from Dexter at minimum.

It is luck I will take, looking at it a little more this morning, the only thing that prevented the caliper from completely spinning around and breaking the hydraulic line, was the top plate on the leaf springs that hold the axle u-bolts. The caliper was stopped by it, although the bleed screw also apparently was hitting the plate as the two rubbing against each other has caused a significant gouge in the screw.

This all is going to be interesting, as I think the replacement parts should be on GD or Dexter, even though the warranty on the trailer has expired. Or at least a goodwill gesture, as this was something not done properly on the assembly line. We shall see.

[RoyB]

That is certainly scary. How do the bolts look on the other axles?

[howson]

Wileykid -- yikes! Where the brakes installed by GD (factory installed) or were they an aftermarket upgrade?

[Cate&Rob]

Would seem like somebody missed the loctite and the torque wrench in the assembly process . . .

Rob