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It may be difficult to find a 6 point 1 7/8 socket without it being an impact type socket. An Impact socket with its thick sidewall, I believe will not fit the Equalizer hitch. Here is their socket as an example.
1 7/8" Thin-walled socket – Equal-i-zer Hitch Store
Found one here.
TEKTON 3/4 in. Drive x 1-7/8 in. Deep 6-Point Socket-SHD33048 - The Home Depot
Jim
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Originally posted by MidwestCamper View PostIt may be difficult to find a 6 point 1 7/8 socket without it being an impact type socket. An Impact socket with its thick sidewall, I believe will not fit the Equalizer hitch. Here is their socket as an example.
1 7/8" Thin-walled socket – Equal-i-zer Hitch Store
Found one here.
TEKTON 3/4 in. Drive x 1-7/8 in. Deep 6-Point Socket-SHD33048 - The Home Depot
Jim
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Originally posted by MidwestCamper View PostCan anyone recommend a reasonably priced clicker style torque wrench to handle the required torque on the ball? Not thinking Snap-On in this case.
Jim
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I'm going to use Rob's "old days" method (from post 4 of this thread): In the "old days" (before I could afford a torque wrench like that ) we did this the old-fashioned way. A 180 lb guy standing on one foot on the end of a 2 1/2 ft breaker bar, applies about 450 lb-ft of torque. Not likely as accurate as your torque wrench, but better than nothing if you don't have the right tool.Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.
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Originally posted by howson View PostI'm going to use Rob's "old days" method (from post 4 of this thread): In the "old days" (before I could afford a torque wrench like that ) we did this the old-fashioned way. A 180 lb guy standing on one foot on the end of a 2 1/2 ft breaker bar, applies about 450 lb-ft of torque. Not likely as accurate as your torque wrench, but better than nothing if you don't have the right tool.
Hang on to something tight and carefully use your weight in doing this. I've seen a few folks slip off a smooth chrome breaker bar over the years.
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Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post
Al . . . you are absolutely right! The only countries in the whole world that aren't metric are the US and the Bahamas . . . I was just trying to "fit in" here .
Rob
......... There was MASS confusion.
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Originally posted by cvretis View Post
The US tried to convert to metric decades ago.
......... There was MASS confusion.
Just sayin'Robert and Chris
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Originally posted by Capt Bob View PostI can't remember the last American built truck I owned that was not assembled with metric fasteners.'
(I lived this in my working career)
Rob
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Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post
There is some interesting history to this. In the early 80’s, the US government required that the auto industry convert to metric or face significant fines/penalties. It was not an easy conversion and was very expensive. Imagine multi-spindle machining tooling geared to thread holes to non-metric thread pitch. Based on push-back from the general US population, the move to metric was rescinded. The government came back to the auto industry with “just kidding . . . you don’t have to change”. The auto industry responded with “we are now metric . . . get used to it”.
(I lived this in my working career)
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Those were the days. Remember when some nuts and bolts that were metric were marked blue? Cars and trucks were a mix of both systems. This is when my toolbox grew exponentially back then. Then in college I enjoyed the SI system so much better. I'm a convert.
Now slugs have an entirely different meaning.
Jim
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Originally posted by Cate&Rob View Post
There is some interesting history to this. In the early 80’s, the US government required that the auto industry convert to metric or face significant fines/penalties. It was not an easy conversion and was very expensive. Imagine multi-spindle machining tooling geared to thread holes to non-metric thread pitch. Based on push-back from the general US population, the move to metric was rescinded. The government came back to the auto industry with “just kidding . . . you don’t have to change”. The auto industry responded with “we are now metric . . . get used to it”.
(I lived this in my working career)
Rob
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If the torque wrench isn't for torqueing down head bolts on an engine or other critical parts, I've seen them in pawn shops on a regular basis and my guess is they don't get too far off.
And the double-check could be running by the rv place to have them check with their torque wrench how the used one is working by having them check what you've torqued into place.
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Originally posted by TheNescios View PostIf the torque wrench isn't for torqueing down head bolts on an engine or other critical parts, I've seen them in pawn shops on a regular basis and my guess is they don't get too far off.
And the double-check could be running by the rv place to have them check with their torque wrench how the used one is working by having them check what you've torqued into place.
Chris
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Last edited by Cate&Rob; 12-13-2020, 10:24 AM.Cate & Rob
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Originally posted by TheNescios View PostIf the torque wrench isn't for torqueing down head bolts on an engine or other critical parts, I've seen them in pawn shops on a regular basis and my guess is they don't get too far off.
And the double-check could be running by the rv place to have them check with their torque wrench how the used one is working by having them check what you've torqued into place.
Chris
In later years, we installed torque checking devices in our manufacturing facilities and any time a wrench was used on a missile component, it had to be checked first. Our seriously out of torque incidents dropped to near zero after that.
So let's say that my 600 ft-lb wrench is actually off by 10% (rare). My 450 ft-lb trailer hitch ball might be 405-495 ft-lb. This would likely not be a critical issue that would subject the interface to failure. The hitch balls I'm worried about are those that are off by hundreds of foot pounds or even "finger tight".
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