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  • #46
    Originally posted by howson View Post

    Welcome to the (unofficial) Two Time TV Club, Mike. I'm a member, too. And we are not alone. Not by a long shot! As your post describes, when conditions get bad it's nice to have "too much truck".

    Howard
    Haha thanks Howard!

    Yes, for sure. It was nice to feel in control of what was going on. Before the wind picked up it was fun and relaxing. Still wasn't half as stressful in the wind as the 150 was on a normal day.
    Mike & Kristyn
    '20 Imagine 2800BH
    '19 F250 XLT 6.7 CC SB
    ProPride 3p 1400

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    • #47
      Hi Mike! I've come back to check in on your results over the last few months. I have/had the same setup as you do (GD 2800BH + F-150 3.5 ecoboost). I've been emailing with Propride to get sized up for one of their hitches, but I see you've gone to the next level and beefed up the tow vehicle. That's great! But,I'm afraid that's not in the cards for me right now, especially. How much, would you say, the Propride helped the situation?

      Like you, I love the design of the TT. It's great for my family. So, I'd really like this to get worked out with the F-150. I'm curious to know how much you pulled the rig with a (mostly full) tank of water? I'm wondering if the extra weight in the front might help even her out.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by snovak View Post
        Hi Mike! I've come back to check in on your results over the last few months. I have/had the same setup as you do (GD 2800BH + F-150 3.5 ecoboost). I've been emailing with Propride to get sized up for one of their hitches, but I see you've gone to the next level and beefed up the tow vehicle. That's great! But,I'm afraid that's not in the cards for me right now, especially. How much, would you say, the Propride helped the situation?

        Like you, I love the design of the TT. It's great for my family. So, I'd really like this to get worked out with the F-150. I'm curious to know how much you pulled the rig with a (mostly full) tank of water? I'm wondering if the extra weight in the front might help even her out.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by snovak View Post
          Hi Mike! I've come back to check in on your results over the last few months. I have/had the same setup as you do (GD 2800BH + F-150 3.5 ecoboost). I've been emailing with Propride to get sized up for one of their hitches, but I see you've gone to the next level and beefed up the tow vehicle. That's great! But,I'm afraid that's not in the cards for me right now, especially. How much, would you say, the Propride helped the situation?

          Like you, I love the design of the TT. It's great for my family. So, I'd really like this to get worked out with the F-150. I'm curious to know how much you pulled the rig with a (mostly full) tank of water? I'm wondering if the extra weight in the front might help even her out.
          Hi snovak ,

          The ProPride helped quite a bit and I'd say if you're sticking with the F150 it's a must have. ProPride recommended the 1400 lb bars for the 2800. I'm curious to see if they recommend the same for you. I think the biggest difference I felt was in sway. It was pretty much gone. The rig behaved as one solid unit and the front end of the truck was less effected by the trailer. When the cross wind blew it would move the whole rig to the right or left rather than the trailer blowing left and the front of the truck heading right. The movements of the rig were much more predictable than without the ProPride.

          That being said the trailer still had a pretty big influence over the truck so I wouldn't expect the PP to totally solve the issue but it will help a lot.

          I never pulled the rig with a full tank of water. I think 1/3 or 1/2 was the most I ever pulled with and I can't comment on it because I wasn't doing a comparison.

          I don't think anything about it was dangerous but I just wasn't comfortable and wanted a little more payload. We're planning on making some trips through mountains in TN, WV, and CO so that also played into my decision to buy a diesel. Many people like the gasser 3/4 tons for our size trailers but they do consume a lot of gas. Wandering Weekends on youtube has a breakdown of his gas vs diesel F250 experience that I found interesting.

          Anyway, I hope that helps!
          Mike & Kristyn
          '20 Imagine 2800BH
          '19 F250 XLT 6.7 CC SB
          ProPride 3p 1400

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          • #50
            Originally posted by MikeG90 View Post

            Hi snovak ,

            The ProPride helped quite a bit and I'd say if you're sticking with the F150 it's a must have. ProPride recommended the 1400 lb bars for the 2800. I'm curious to see if they recommend the same for you. I think the biggest difference I felt was in sway. It was pretty much gone. The rig behaved as one solid unit and the front end of the truck was less effected by the trailer. When the cross wind blew it would move the whole rig to the right or left rather than the trailer blowing left and the front of the truck heading right. The movements of the rig were much more predictable than without the ProPride.

            That being said the trailer still had a pretty big influence over the truck so I wouldn't expect the PP to totally solve the issue but it will help a lot.

            I never pulled the rig with a full tank of water. I think 1/3 or 1/2 was the most I ever pulled with and I can't comment on it because I wasn't doing a comparison.

            I don't think anything about it was dangerous but I just wasn't comfortable and wanted a little more payload. We're planning on making some trips through mountains in TN, WV, and CO so that also played into my decision to buy a diesel. Many people like the gasser 3/4 tons for our size trailers but they do consume a lot of gas. Wandering Weekends on youtube has a breakdown of his gas vs diesel F250 experience that I found interesting.

            Anyway, I hope that helps!
            Hi Mike,

            This helps, absolutely! Thank you. I really appreciate the conversation, and your approach to getting the setup to feel right. Brent, at Propride, recommended the 1400 for me also. I did ask him why not the 1000, as our setup does fall into the 1000 range on their chart. He said, with the added tongue weight of the Propride, it brings us deeper into the 1400 range, and it will provide more flexibility. Makes sense. He also mentioned that he talks to at least 1 customer per day with this exact same setup. So, we're not alone in this.

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            I figure, I'll go with the Propride 1400, as recommended. We're doing a summer trip from South Florida to Maine, with a number of stops along the way. That's a lot of road, and I've got a couple of young ones with us. Their safety and my peace of mind is worth the tall price tag.

            If the wind doesn't steer the truck, it does sound like the Propride is working as advertised. I have yet to try other upgrades, the like aforementioned E-class tires, Bilstein/HDPP shocks, and/or rear sway bar upgrades. I think the hitch will make the biggest improvement, so I'll start there.

            Frankly, I think Grand Design should package the Propride or Hensley with this TT. Especially if the owner is pulling with a truck like the F-150.

            Thank you again! Travel safe.
            Last edited by snovak; 05-13-2020, 07:18 AM.

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            • #51
              Just for fun, I thought I'd add a pic of the rig. Thanks again for the quality info!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by snovak View Post
                Just for fun, I thought I'd add a pic of the rig. Thanks again for the quality info!

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                snovak Thats a nice looking rig!

                I tend to agree with ProPride because our tongue weight was sitting at around 940lbs. The 1400lb bars give us a little more wiggle room.

                I liked the way the E rated tires felt on the truck when towing. When I aired them up for towing it added just a little more stability in the rear end.

                I think your idea of them packaging the hitch with the trailer is not a bad idea. At the very least they could mention it somewhere in the literature.

                Please update us with your towing experience. I'm curious to see how you end up liking it.
                Mike & Kristyn
                '20 Imagine 2800BH
                '19 F250 XLT 6.7 CC SB
                ProPride 3p 1400

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                • #53
                  I’m late to this party but been there done that.

                  Three years ago I bought a new F-150 XLT W/3.5EB and a new 2800BH using a Blue Ox WD hitch. It was scary towing. The trailer was always in charge.

                  I replaced the Blue Ox Spring bars, no appreciable change
                  I had Air Bags installed on the F-150, no appreciable change.
                  I bought a Propride hitch and it resolved 90% of the issue.

                  But by then my wife was gun shy and reluctant to go camping, fearing the trip would not be stable. This is a woman who isn’t easily intimidated have been a pilot with thousand of hours flying time. In the airplane she felt control but not towing the TT with the F-150.

                  So
                  I traded the 3 month old 2800BH in on a new Reflection 337RLS
                  i returned the Propride, cost me $400 in 2 way shipping.
                  I bought a new 2017 F350 Diesel CCSB with 3,500 lbs of payload and sold my 3 month old F-150 to my Brother in Law.

                  i only towed the 2800BH once with the F350, and that was with the Blue Ox, taking it 50 miles to the dealership to trade it in. The F350/2800BH towed really well, even when being passed by semi’s.

                  This combo F350/337RLS is Soooo stable I literally forget I’m towing at times. There’s absolutely no effect of being passed by semi's or towing in crosswinds.

                  2 years later I traded the 17 F350 in on a special ordered heavily optioned 2019 F350 Lariat with 3,523 lbs of payload. I wanted adaptive cruise, LED headlights and other goodies. Still have that combo and love it.


                  Here’s the F-150/2800BH




                  And here’s the F3509/Reflection 337RLS












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                  • #54
                    You might stop by your Ford dealer. Mine has a video display with touch panel where you can actually input your VIN. It will list you trucks weight, let you input the trailer weight and give you vehicle capacity plus unused capacity according to your input. It is VIN specific.

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                    2019 Ford F-150 Lariat 2WD SuperCrew , SoftTopper, Blue Ox SwayPro hitch with 1000lb bars, Billstein 5100 series rear shocks, Hellwig rear swaybar
                    2020 Imagine 2600RD with Road Armor + wet bolt suspension, Yakima Longhaul Bike Rack, MicroAir EasyStart 364 for AC, Lion Energy 100amp X2
                    Amateur Radio Call N9XGZ
                    FMCA # 489460

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Running from Gnats View Post
                      You might stop by your Ford dealer. Mine has a video display with touch panel where you can actually input your VIN. It will list you trucks weight, let you input the trailer weight and give you vehicle capacity plus unused capacity according to your input. It is VIN specific.

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                      Very helpful and non-biased resource for the consumer as it doesn't depend on the salesman's knowledge. Would be nice it that tool was also available online. Txfivver -- (Jeff) any insight you can add?
                      Forum moderators are not GD employees--we are volunteers and owners presumably just like yourself. Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, we have nothing to gain should you choose to purchase a product or engage a service we discuss on this forum.

                      Howard, 2017 Ford F-350 DRW, '19 315RLTSPlus

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