Disclaimer: In general, this forum is intended to be a place for Grand Design owners to gather and exchange ideas regarding their use of and experiences with Grand Design products. Any information contained in the forum should be independently verified by checking with Grand Design, one of its authorized dealers, or reviewing your owner’s manual.
If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You will need to to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Thanks for visiting and your interest in Grand Design!
That looks "right". A gasoline 3/4 ton has always been in the 3000 lb payload range with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. I thought that was the (artificial) GVWR limit for 3/4 ton trucks? How did GVWR get to 10,650? Which takes payload into the 3750 range. Hmmm.
That looks "right". A gasoline 3/4 ton has always been in the 3000 lb payload range with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. I thought that was the (artificial) GVWR limit for 3/4 ton trucks? How did GVWR get to 10,650? Which takes payload into the 3750 range. Hmmm.
Rob
Soooo generally the 10k limit has to do with state by state registration and taxing of the vehicle. Over 10k v. under or at 10k can determine whether you need a "weighted" tag or a regular cargo carrying tag. Also, once you get over 450/4500 for the truck you start running into insurance issue. You may have to have a commercial vehicle insurance policy in certain state due to the class of the truck. Many 450/4500 and up are listed at Cab Chassis' which creates fun at the DMV and with Insurance (I sell insurance in 3 states in the SE and I have to know all the tricks when my camper people call. HAHA.
Its all a game of numbers.
2021 GD Imagine 2400BH - Hensley hitch, Levelmate Pro, TPMS, Furrion back up and a few other things
2018 Nissan Titan SV 5.6L 4x4 - 3 kids and a co-pilot
Look at the specs for the new f250 with the Godzilla 7.3L. I’m not at office otherwise I would throw specs. I’ve heard good things
I think the 7.3 is a very good option. However it is limited to the 10000# GVWR where the diesel has an option for 10800# GVWR. So you can achieve the same payload with diesel as with the 7.3 gas.
Typically, a diesel F250 weighs over 7500 lbs. With a 10,000 lb GVWR . . . that leaves 2500 lbs for payload. Often less. Is your GVWR higher than 10,000 lbs ?
GrandDeal3 Agreed that the F250 Godzilla is looking good.
Rob
With Ford you can get a 10800# GVWR package with the 3/4 ton. But that package is only available with the diesel.
GM has a 11,350# GVWR package for their 3/4 ton trucks. Ford has the 10800# package. I'm guessing Ram/Dodge is soon to follow.
I don't know about other states, but, in Texas, a vehicle with a GVWR of over 10000# requires you to look into DOT registration, and/or A or B non-CDL drivers licenses. But, it also depends on teh GCVWR and the towed vehicle GVWR. Staying at 10000# will eliminate this research.
Single vehicle or combination of vehicles that are not included in Class A or B
Single vehicle with a GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds towing a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds
Designed to transport 23 or less passengers including the driver
Note: Vehicles rated for the transport of 16-23 passengers including the driver require a Class C CDL, unless exempt
An autocycle
I think once you get into that 26,001 lb GVW or commercial registration, then the rules change.
Joseph
Tow Vehicle: 2024 GMC K3500 Denali Ultimate Diesel
Coach: 303RLS Delivered March 5, 2021
South of Houston Texas
Single vehicle or combination of vehicles that are not included in Class A or B
Single vehicle with a GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds towing a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds
Designed to transport 23 or less passengers including the driver
Note: Vehicles rated for the transport of 16-23 passengers including the driver require a Class C CDL, unless exempt
An autocycle
I think once you get into that 26,001 lb GVW or commercial registration, then the rules change.
That is correct, but there's much more to it. It does depend on you GCVWR, but also depends on your vehicle usage (commercial use??), number of passengers, GVRW of towed vehicle, and GVRW of towing vehicle.
In my case my vehicle GCVWR is 30000# and GVWR is over 10000#. I am not using the vehicle for commercial use and have less than 15 passengers. So, if my towed vehicle GVWR is 100# or more, I would be required to have a class A non-CDL license. However, my towed vehicle GVWR is 9995# so I am good with the class C license.
I think they tried to make this as complicated as possible to confuse everybody.
Comment