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  • Serious F450 19.5 winter tire replacement

    Why serious? Most folks have a favorite tire that has worked well for them for a lot of years. But the F450 19.5 tires are not normal tires, they are an in between tire. Not quite a truck tire, but definitely not a pickup, SUV, nor passenger car tire.

    Winter tire. Believe it or not there are state laws written about tires and if they are usable in snow conditions. Most places we go require that in the winter 4x4 vehicles have "winter tires". Often time "All Season" Tires suffice. Different states, different individual requirements. I just have to be careful about this. What I don't want is the super duper mud grabber tire, I travel 96% on the highway, and only 5% on snow and ice, but I still need the correct designators.

    My F450 came with Continental HD3 tires. Pretty good compromise on traction and durability. I am pleased with them. Well, once I got the chipping issue resolved, around 25,000 miles the front end was getting really "cupped". I spent some money on rotation, balancing, and alignment, and the problem has gone away. There was a lot of talk about weak shocks on the F450, but I didn't find that to be an issue.

    I like the Goodyear G622 tire, but I am having trouble finding traction info on it, is it an all weather or snow tire?

    Firestone makes the AT2 tire, another possibility. More research needed.

    What's hilarious is that when you do tire searches none of these come up, you have to specifically go hunt them down.

    I wouldn't mind replacing all 6 tires, but around 25,000 miles I got a nail in one tire in a location that the tire guys told me could not be plugged. If you don't know then you have to believe what you are told. It was near the sidewall. So I got 2 new HD3's. If I get 4 new HD3's then I have half worn tires on the inside of the dually wheels. I kind of prefer getting all new tires all at once.

    While price is always a concern, it is not a limiting factor. I want to put really quality tires on my truck.

    2017 Momentum 376, 2019 Ford F450
    2022 Triumph Scrambler Motorcycle
    E-bikes, Hobi Pedal Kayaks
    Kota the dog and KC the Kitty Cat

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    FWIW Plugging 19.5’s is not a good idea. The higher air pressure makes the plugs more prone to fail. Also the lager tires have steel reinforced sidewalls. You won’t know it is damaged until it zippers with 80 or 90 pounds of air in it. Which generally does not make for a pleasurable experience.
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    • #3
      A lot of times commercial treads are not rated the same as passenger and light truck tires. My info may be out of date with these being more popular now. You normally had steer tire, traction or trailer. Anything designated as trailer is not suitable for steer or traction. Anything designated free rolling can be trailer or steer but not drive tire. Takes more research to chose the correct tire.
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      Traded 2021 Reflection 337
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      • #4
        Originally posted by d2reid View Post
        Why serious? Most folks have a favorite tire that has worked well for them for a lot of years. But the F450 19.5 tires are not normal tires, they are an in between tire. Not quite a truck tire, but definitely not a pickup, SUV, nor passenger car tire.

        Winter tire. Believe it or not there are state laws written about tires and if they are usable in snow conditions. Most places we go require that in the winter 4x4 vehicles have "winter tires". Often time "All Season" Tires suffice. Different states, different individual requirements. I just have to be careful about this. What I don't want is the super duper mud grabber tire, I travel 96% on the highway, and only 5% on snow and ice, but I still need the correct designators.

        My F450 came with Continental HD3 tires. Pretty good compromise on traction and durability. I am pleased with them. Well, once I got the chipping issue resolved, around 25,000 miles the front end was getting really "cupped". I spent some money on rotation, balancing, and alignment, and the problem has gone away. There was a lot of talk about weak shocks on the F450, but I didn't find that to be an issue.

        I like the Goodyear G622 tire, but I am having trouble finding traction info on it, is it an all weather or snow tire?

        Firestone makes the AT2 tire, another possibility. More research needed.

        What's hilarious is that when you do tire searches none of these come up, you have to specifically go hunt them down.

        I wouldn't mind replacing all 6 tires, but around 25,000 miles I got a nail in one tire in a location that the tire guys told me could not be plugged. If you don't know then you have to believe what you are told. It was near the sidewall. So I got 2 new HD3's. If I get 4 new HD3's then I have half worn tires on the inside of the dually wheels. I kind of prefer getting all new tires all at once.

        While price is always a concern, it is not a limiting factor. I want to put really quality tires on my truck.
        Here you go - possibility
        https://business.michelinman.com/tir...lin-xds-2-19-5 but they are for drive axle.
        Last edited by Yoda; 08-05-2021, 11:33 AM.
        2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Yoda View Post
          Here you go - possibility
          .
          Thanks, I am pricing them out today. One worry is the spec sheet says 10 minimum distance between dual wheels, I need to find out what that means. 10 inches center to center, or 10 inches side wall to side wall.

          2017 Momentum 376, 2019 Ford F450
          2022 Triumph Scrambler Motorcycle
          E-bikes, Hobi Pedal Kayaks
          Kota the dog and KC the Kitty Cat

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          • #6
            Originally posted by d2reid View Post

            Thanks, I am pricing them out today. One worry is the spec sheet says 10 minimum distance between dual wheels, I need to find out what that means. 10 inches center to center, or 10 inches side wall to side wall.
            Glad to help, but can they be used on the steering axle.This is all new to me. I saw a post where someone changed rims to 20" to use high load rating LT tires. Seems expensive after buying the 450 to begin with. Toyo also makes a 19.5 in a winter configuration, but again it has a drive wheel note. https://www.tiresdirect.net/toyo-m92...yABEgJTDfD_BwE
            2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by d2reid View Post

              Thanks, I am pricing them out today. One worry is the spec sheet says 10 minimum distance between dual wheels, I need to find out what that means. 10 inches center to center, or 10 inches side wall to side wall.
              Here is a quick explanation I found:
              Minimum dual spacing is measured from the centerline of one tire in a dual position to the centerline of the other tire.
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              • #8
                d2reid If your 450 is a 4WD the front axle is considered a drive axle.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by M&K337 View Post
                  [USER="2234"]4WD the front axle is considered a drive axle.
                  But it identifies as a steering axle.

                  Ok, nearly an inappropriate joke.

                  The data sheet I downloaded indicates "limited all-position service". Now to find the limitations....

                  2017 Momentum 376, 2019 Ford F450
                  2022 Triumph Scrambler Motorcycle
                  E-bikes, Hobi Pedal Kayaks
                  Kota the dog and KC the Kitty Cat

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by d2reid View Post

                    But it identifies as a steering axle.

                    Ok, nearly an inappropriate joke.

                    The data sheet I downloaded indicates "limited all-position service". Now to find the limitations....
                    Reminds me of a great movie line "You've got to know your limitations"
                    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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                    • #11
                      Just a side note, if you want a few extra miles out of your tires, they are regroovable. Just make sure you find someone that knows what they are doing.
                      2022 Momentum 397THS-R 12/3/2021
                      Traded 2021 Reflection 337
                      2020 Chevy Silverado 3500 DRW
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by d2reid View Post

                        But it identifies as a steering axle.

                        Ok, nearly an inappropriate joke.

                        The data sheet I downloaded indicates "limited all-position service". Now to find the limitations....
                        2022 Momentum 397THS-R 12/3/2021
                        Traded 2021 Reflection 337
                        2020 Chevy Silverado 3500 DRW
                        Formerly M&K337

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