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  • #16
    Originally posted by mpking View Post


    Also, what's your take on fusing? The light in the Storage compartment is already fused. Should I insert a second fuse between this USB device and the point I tap the power? I'm thinking no, but wanted an 2nd opinion.
    There is no need for another fuse. Only one fuse per circuit is needed.

    Jim
    Jim and Ginnie
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    • #17
      Originally posted by mpking View Post

      Also, what's your take on fusing? The light in the Storage compartment is already fused. Should I insert a second fuse between this USB device and the point I tap the power? I'm thinking no, but wanted an 2nd opinion.
      Fusing is for wires, so if the wire you use to connect the outlet can handle the rating of the fuse, you don’t need another. If the wire steps down in size, you’ll need a smaller fuse to protect it.
      John & Kathy
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jkwilson View Post

        Fusing is for wires, so if the wire you use to connect the outlet can handle the rating of the fuse, you don’t need another. If the wire steps down in size, you’ll need a smaller fuse to protect it.
        Never thought of it that way--thanks for the response. Probably going off on a tangent, but is this why GD has "hidden" fuses (like the awning, water pump, etc) in the camper?

        mpking -- given the wire is definitely a "step down in size", a fuse is advised. (I'm glad you asked! Now I know to use one, too.)
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        • #19
          Jkwilson - is absolutely correct in that the fuse is there to protect from an over current situation on the wiring. If all wire sizes are the same, the one fuse should be sufficient. If not, a secondary fuse installed on the smaller wires may (or may not) be required. If the OEM fuse is sufficient for the smaller wire, you're fine. If not, then two will be required. There are lots of charts that show fuse/wire size suitability.

          Jim
          Jim and Ginnie
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          • #20
            Sounds like it would be in my best interest to not switch wire gauge. Another vote for the QC 3.0 panel mount, as it will accept that same gauge wire.
            Mike
            2017 Imagine 2800BH pushing a 2019 Ford F150 Platinum

            Formerly: 2002 Rockwood Popup
            Location: Massachusetts

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            • #21
              Originally posted by mpking View Post
              Sounds like it would be in my best interest to not switch wire gauge. Another vote for the QC 3.0 panel mount, as it will accept that same gauge wire.
              I too agree QC 3.0. Even if you don't have a Qualcomm device it still fast charges. As for the small blue light voltage display, mounted vertically, on my "nightstand". Keeps me from stumbling over my own feet when I need to use the bathroom in the middle of the night.

              Charles and Susan
              2021 Ram 3500 6.4 Hemi, 4x4 CCSB
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              • #22
                Question about the end splice connectors. Is there a way to "uncrimp" them, or do you have to cut them off? I want to tap the power from the radio, but I don't want to shorten the wire if I can help it.
                Mike
                2017 Imagine 2800BH pushing a 2019 Ford F150 Platinum

                Formerly: 2002 Rockwood Popup
                Location: Massachusetts

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mpking View Post
                  Question about the end splice connectors. Is there a way to "uncrimp" them, or do you have to cut them off? I want to tap the power from the radio, but I don't want to shorten the wire if I can help it.
                  You might be able to reverse crimp them with a pair of pliers but generally you just cut them off. You'll only loose 1/2" or less of length if you cut really close.
                  Charles and Susan
                  2021 Ram 3500 6.4 Hemi, 4x4 CCSB
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                  • #24
                    ckreef . I ended up being able to reverse crimp them.

                    Things worked out pretty nice.
                    Mike
                    2017 Imagine 2800BH pushing a 2019 Ford F150 Platinum

                    Formerly: 2002 Rockwood Popup
                    Location: Massachusetts

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                    • #25
                      I never put any photos! (Linking to this thread for someone else, and I just realized this).

                      Steps:
                      1. Removed the radio from the entertainment center
                      2. Drilled out 1.25" hole in the wall next to the power jack. I did as close to the front as possible so that I would not have to struggle to get the plugs plugged in.
                      3. I decided to tap the power from the radio. The power draw and wire guage adequately fit on the fuse that was on the wiring.
                      4. Cleanup and take pictures
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                      I also added the same charger to under the bed.
                      1. I opened up the Universal Dock and drilled Diagonally thru the wood in the corner. (No pictures)
                      2. I ran the wiring up, and placed in split wire loom to protect it.
                      3. I added a BlueSea ST fuse block inside the Universal Dock. I chose to hide it inside the Universal dock because:
                        1. I will not access it very often, and the size of fuses was done correctly, so they should not blow. If they do blow, it's only 4 screws to access.
                        2. it will protect it from damage from items in the storage compartment.
                      4. I drilled the holes under the bed so they are up high. This protects from items Under the bed snagging them, and also items on the floor outside the bed not accidently bending the USB cables. I might added a box on the back side (or a metal / plastic plate) to protect the wiring from getting hit/snagged.
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                      Mike
                      2017 Imagine 2800BH pushing a 2019 Ford F150 Platinum

                      Formerly: 2002 Rockwood Popup
                      Location: Massachusetts

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                      • #26
                        Updating my thread. Back in Post #9 I talked about technology generation. At the time I wrote this, I could not find a USB-C panel mount that was not going to suck.

                        I ran across these today:
                        https://amzn.to/38UtaOi


                        and
                        https://amzn.to/3uNg7a0



                        Top one is a 12Volt device. Bottom one is auto switching between 12 and 24 volts (if you have 12 volts, it's not 30 W, it's 20W)

                        Bottom device has an OFF switch, so you can turn it off and remove parasitic draw (Which is a big deal for me)

                        I'll probably swap one of the USB chargers in my unit to the bottom one. It's only about $15 bucks.

                        Tagging people who have posted about USB charging ports:

                        howson ckreef TucsonJim Heavysledz
                        Mike
                        2017 Imagine 2800BH pushing a 2019 Ford F150 Platinum

                        Formerly: 2002 Rockwood Popup
                        Location: Massachusetts

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