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    My question is what does Grand Design say about using weight distribution hitches on their trailers?
    My thought is that weight distribution hitches put additional stress on the trailer frame and suspension that it wasn’t designed for.
    My reason for not using the spring bars. Plus, our truck doesn’t need them.
    Rich

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    Originally posted by RV2600RB View Post
    My question is what does Grand Design say about using weight distribution hitches on their trailers?
    My thought is that weight distribution hitches put additional stress on the trailer frame and suspension that it wasn’t designed for.
    My reason for not using the spring bars. Plus, our truck doesn’t need them.
    Rich
    From the Imagine Owner's Manual, page 72:

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    Howard
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    • #3
      Yup found it in my manual.
      I still think it adds additional stress on the frame and suspension that the trailer wasn’t designed for. Just my mechanic’s mind logic.
      Some food for thought though, is the additional weight put on the frame and suspension from a WD hitch part of the trailer GVWR? That weight can change drastically from a 1 ton truck to an SUV towing the same trailer. 🤔
      Rich

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      • #4
        Not sure what kind of information you are looking for with this post. WD hitches have been used for years with no ill effect on tow vehicle or trailer. I tried one time towing our previous TT without and it was a less than stellar experience.

        Brian
        Brian & Michelle
        2018 Reflection 29RS
        2022 Chevy 3500HD

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        • #5
          Weight distributing hitches do not add or subtract from the hitch weight carried by the receiver on the tow vehicle. They are a means to move some of the load between the trailer cup and the tow vehicle ball, back to the trailer suspension and forward to the tow vehicle front suspension. This does not affect the GVW of the trailer, but does affect how this weight is distributed. In most cases, moving weight that would be carried primarily by the rear axle of the truck, to the front axle of the truck and the suspension of the trailer, improves truck balance and steering feel.

          Rob
          Cate & Rob
          (with Border Collies Molly & Angel + Kitties Hazel & Elsie)
          2015 Reflection 303RLS
          2022 F350 Diesel CC SB SRW Lariat
          Bayham, Ontario, Canada

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          • #6
            The receiver hitch on your truck will likely have two ratings - one for max tongue weight with distribution, another for max tongue weight without distribution. The latter will be notably less.
            Ottertail, Minnesota
            2022 Imagine 2500RL VIN 573TE3029N6637046
            2022 Ford F-150 Lariat, SuperCrew, long box, max tow

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RV2600RB View Post
              My thought is that weight distribution hitches put additional stress on the trailer frame and suspension that it wasn’t designed for.
              Plus, our truck doesn’t need them.
              Rich
              The trailers are designed to have weight distribution hitches used with them. Concerning your specific truck, it may not need one, but you might find it handles better with some of the tongue weight moved to the front axle.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JPS350 View Post

                The trailers are designed to have weight distribution hitches used with them. Concerning your specific truck, it may not need one, but you might find it handles better with some of the tongue weight moved to the front axle.
                Spot on!

                Mike
                Mike & Sonya
                2017 Silverado 1500, 5.3, Tow Pkg, RAS
                Blue Ox SwayPro
                2021 2400BH (DeBunked)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AlexPeterson View Post
                  The receiver hitch on your truck will likely have two ratings - one for max tongue weight with distribution, another for max tongue weight without distribution. The latter will be notably less.
                  I am well aware of that. My truck is a 3/4 ton with a 2.5 inch class 5 hitch. The trailer tongue weight is under the max rating without a WD hitch.
                  Rich

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JPS350 View Post

                    The trailers are designed to have weight distribution hitches used with them. Concerning your specific truck, it may not need one, but you might find it handles better with some of the tongue weight moved to the front axle.
                    It tows fine as is.
                    Rich

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                    • #11
                      Here is the weight rating sticker for the receiver hitch on my 2016 Ford F350.

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                      When using the 2-1/2" receiver, I was limited to 850 pounds of tongue weight without a weight distributing hitch. But I could tow up to 1900# with the WD hitch. Frequently, I'd be around 1400 to 1500 pounds when towing our Reflection 297RSTS.

                      I know some other owners who tow small imagines with 3/4 ton or larger trucks without using WD hitches. One of the key factors for me is headlight position. If I hook up and the headlights are pointing too high, it indicates too much weight on the back of the truck which a WD hitch can address.

                      Jim
                      Jim and Ginnie
                      2024 Solitude 310GK - 2020 F350 Dually
                      GDRV Technical Forum Moderator
                      GDRV Rally Support Coordinator

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RV2600RB View Post

                        It tows fine as is.
                        Rich
                        It is apparent you think you don't need it, but you do. The folks that know have made that evident. above Not sure how you have that hitch without the bars. Their not that expensive or do you not have the trailer fittings either? If you can barrow a set and scale your truck. Scale your truck, both without the bars and with the bars and post the truck front axle loading. With a light front end you may have difficulty maintaining control in one of those OOP'S situation's or high winds. Years ago I towed a Wilderness trailer with a F250. Was told did not need them by the RV dealer. Most towing was great, but had an idiot try to drive into my front bumper merging on I70. I hit the brakes hard to avoid contact and almost lost control. (trailer did go sideways) .I put the equalizer hitch on it - set up by the hitch shop and had a similar event happen a bit later - no issues on control then.

                        Or could the reason be your concerned with having issues hooking up? I can assure you once adjusted it only takes a few extra minutes. Now one last thought GD per the sticker indicates the bars/sway control "should be used". They would not say that if they did not design for it. Also if you do have an accident and don't have them, there could be legal or ticket issues. You never know nowadays.

                        Safe travels
                        Keith
                        2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th whee, Star White 2022 F350 King Ranch CC Long bed (HAL) (CCC 4062lbs), B&W 25K OEM Companion,. SteadyFast system, Trailer reverse lights, rear receiver spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, Solar, Custom 6K axles upgrade, and other modifications.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Yoda View Post

                          It is apparent you think you don't need it, but you do. The folks that know have made that evident. above Not sure how you have that hitch without the bars. Their not that expensive or do you not have the trailer fittings either? If you can barrow a set and scale your truck. Scale your truck, both without the bars and with the bars and post the truck front axle loading. With a light front end you may have difficulty maintaining control in one of those OOP'S situation's or high winds. Years ago I towed a Wilderness trailer with a F250. Was told did not need them by the RV dealer. Most towing was great, but had an idiot try to drive into my front bumper merging on I70. I hit the brakes hard to avoid contact and almost lost control. (trailer did go sideways) .I put the equalizer hitch on it - set up by the hitch shop and had a similar event happen a bit later - no issues on control then.

                          Or could the reason be your concerned with having issues hooking up? I can assure you once adjusted it only takes a few extra minutes. Now one last thought GD per the sticker indicates the bars/sway control "should be used". They would not say that if they did not design for it. Also if you do have an accident and don't have them, there could be legal or ticket issues. You never know nowadays.

                          Safe travels
                          Keith
                          I have the bars just don’t use them. The dealer had the hitch set up so I had to literally lift the truck rear wheels off the ground to engage and disengage the bars. I know that’s not right. I removed 2 washers and the hitch head sits at a reasonable angle now.
                          Rich

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RV2600RB View Post

                            I have the bars just don’t use them. The dealer had the hitch set up so I had to literally lift the truck rear wheels off the ground to engage and disengage the bars. I know that’s not right. I removed 2 washers and the hitch head sits at a reasonable angle now.
                            Rich
                            Yeah, that doesn't sound right at all.

                            JIm
                            Jim and Ginnie
                            2024 Solitude 310GK - 2020 F350 Dually
                            GDRV Technical Forum Moderator
                            GDRV Rally Support Coordinator

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Yoda View Post

                              It is apparent you think you don't need it, but you do. The folks that know have made that evident. above Not sure how you have that hitch without the bars. Their not that expensive or do you not have the trailer fittings either? If you can barrow a set and scale your truck. Scale your truck, both without the bars and with the bars and post the truck front axle loading. With a light front end you may have difficulty maintaining control in one of those OOP'S situation's or high winds. Years ago I towed a Wilderness trailer with a F250. Was told did not need them by the RV dealer. Most towing was great, but had an idiot try to drive into my front bumper merging on I70. I hit the brakes hard to avoid contact and almost lost control. (trailer did go sideways) .I put the equalizer hitch on it - set up by the hitch shop and had a similar event happen a bit later - no issues on control then.

                              Or could the reason be your concerned with having issues hooking up? I can assure you once adjusted it only takes a few extra minutes. Now one last thought GD per the sticker indicates the bars/sway control "should be used". They would not say that if they did not design for it. Also if you do have an accident and don't have them, there could be legal or ticket issues. You never know nowadays.

                              Safe travels
                              Keith
                              Don’t think front end weight is an issue. It has around 6,000lbs on the front axle.
                              Also “should use” is a suggestion, not a mandate. Doubtful any law suit or ticket based on that would hold water. Your trailer went sideways probably due to the tires skidding which is a loss of traction. Most likely the gain was set too high. The truck and trailer should brake as a team, neither one out powering the other.
                              Rich
                              Last edited by guest2; 02-02-2024, 02:02 AM.

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