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Can I tow the Imagine 22MLE?

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  • Can I tow the Imagine 22MLE?

    New to this forum and soon I will accept delivery of a 2021 Imagine XLS 22MLE. We just love the layout and the quality of this TT. But, I have a 2018 F150 XLT 4x4, 2.7l Ecoboost with the 3.55 rear and 20" tires. My GVWR is 6500#. My payload is 1379#. I really don't want to trade up for an F250. I checked at the dealer and I would literally take a bath if I traded my truck in. It's just the 2 of us, about 275# plus what ever else we want to load up. I read and calculated for the last several weeks and it appears this TT may be a little too big for my truck. However, the Ford dealer and the trailer dealer both said I should be fine as long as I don't max out the TT GVWR (6995#). Any thoughts?

  • #2
    Yea I agree with both dealers, it should work. My Nissan Titan has a CCC of only 1488#'s. I'm towing a 2600rb with just me and Mrs skreef. The 2600rb is a bit heavier than a XLS 22MLE and I only have an extra extra 108# payload capacity. Like me you'll be close to the limits of your truck but with a properly adjusted WDH it should work.
    Charles and Susan
    2018 Nissan Titan SV 4x4 crew cab
    Roadmaster Active Suspension HD
    Equalizer w/ 1,000 lb bars
    2020 Imagine 2600RB

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JHC View Post
      New to this forum and soon I will accept delivery of a 2021 Imagine XLS 22MLE. We just love the layout and the quality of this TT. But, I have a 2018 F150 XLT 4x4, 2.7l Ecoboost with the 3.55 rear and 20" tires. My GVWR is 6500#. My payload is 1379#. I really don't want to trade up for an F250. I checked at the dealer and I would literally take a bath if I traded my truck in. It's just the 2 of us, about 275# plus what ever else we want to load up. I read and calculated for the last several weeks and it appears this TT may be a little too big for my truck. However, the Ford dealer and the trailer dealer both said I should be fine as long as I don't max out the TT GVWR (6995#). Any thoughts?
      I would think with those numbers you will be over your payload. Whether you are okay towing that way is up to you. You will probably have around 1,000 pounds of tongue weight plus maybe 100 pounds for the weight distribution hitch. That plus your 275 in passenger weight and gear puts you over your payload. With that payload availability I assume you do not have the Max Payload (different from the Max Tow package), which means you probably do not have LT tires. I would recommend an upgrade to those at the very least.

      The best advice is a trip to the scales and see where your weight is actually at.

      Cate&Rob is our resident F150 expert, I am sure he will be along with some additional advice.
      2018 Reflection 28bh
      2019 F350 6.7L Long Bed Crew Cab

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      • #4
        New tires is on my list. Always been partial to Michelin tires. Any suggestions? And thank you for the advice.

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        • #5
          I would agree with ckreef . I think this should be doable if you are not full timing and loading the trailer with everything you have. Try to keep your weights at the limits and definitely move to LT tires as mentioned above. Take the unit to the scales and see what that tells you.

          Enjoy and welcome to the technical forum. You will get plenty of advice on this subject here.

          Brian
          Brian & Michelle
          2018 Reflection 29RS Oct.17 build date, EMS-HW50C , Lippert Remote
          2015 Chevy 3500HD CC LB Duramax , Reese Elite 18K

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          • #6
            JHC


            Ford puts LTC or LTE tires on the factory F150 HDPP (Heavy Duty Payload Package). Several owners have reported towing stability improvement by upgrading the standard “Passenger Car” tires to the light truck tires. This allows you to run tire pressures in the 50 psi range. The next step would be rear suspension airbags. Airlift makes kits that are custom fit for different models. One kit also has an onboard compressor for automatically controlling airbag pressure.

            Rob
            Cate & Rob
            (with Border Collies Molly & Angel and their kitty Gracie)
            2015 Reflection 303RLS
            2014 Ecoboost F150 with Heavy Duty Payload Package
            Whitby, Ontario, Canada

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JHC View Post
              New to this forum and soon I will accept delivery of a 2021 Imagine XLS 22MLE. We just love the layout and the quality of this TT. But, I have a 2018 F150 XLT 4x4, 2.7l Ecoboost with the 3.55 rear and 20" tires. My GVWR is 6500#. My payload is 1379#. I really don't want to trade up for an F250. I checked at the dealer and I would literally take a bath if I traded my truck in. It's just the 2 of us, about 275# plus what ever else we want to load up. I read and calculated for the last several weeks and it appears this TT may be a little too big for my truck. However, the Ford dealer and the trailer dealer both said I should be fine as long as I don't max out the TT GVWR (6995#). Any thoughts?
              Your numbers will be very close if not over GVWR. I went to the CAT scales a week ago with our 22mle and Tundra. Tundra GVWR is 7100# and I came in between 200-250# under. GCWR, f&r axle, no problems. Trailer came in at 5580 including tongue weight. Tongue weight was about 660# and included one battery, LP tanks about 2/3rds full, Andersen WDH (less than 60# total), no water in tanks to speak of and just two of us in truck.

              Best thing to do is go to the scales. To make it simple download WeighMyTruck app from CAT, no need to go inside building. Several good YouTube videos. You will need 3 weighs, once done plug your numbers into this calculator, results will be at the bottom

              http://www.towingplanner.com/ActualW...ailerCatScales

              Good luck, I hope you can make it work. It’s a nice trailer and we really like the openness, plus it fits in my driveway!
              2010 Tundra SR5 DC 5.7L
              2020 Imagine XLS 22MLE
              2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
              2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Country Campers View Post
                I would agree with ckreef . I think this should be doable if you are not full timing and loading the trailer with everything you have. Try to keep your weights at the limits and definitely move to LT tires as mentioned above. Take the unit to the scales and see what that tells you.

                Enjoy and welcome to the technical forum. You will get plenty of advice on this subject here.

                Brian
                Thank you. We are really excited to get the trailer. And looking to improve the handling of my truck the best I can with the recommendations and research I find here and at the F150 Forum.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JHC View Post
                  New to this forum and soon I will accept delivery of a 2021 Imagine XLS 22MLE. We just love the layout and the quality of this TT. But, I have a 2018 F150 XLT 4x4, 2.7l Ecoboost with the 3.55 rear and 20" tires. My GVWR is 6500#. My payload is 1379#. I really don't want to trade up for an F250. I checked at the dealer and I would literally take a bath if I traded my truck in. It's just the 2 of us, about 275# plus what ever else we want to load up. I read and calculated for the last several weeks and it appears this TT may be a little too big for my truck. However, the Ford dealer and the trailer dealer both said I should be fine as long as I don't max out the TT GVWR (6995#). Any thoughts?
                  There is a poster who sometimes posts here but also on another forum, Ynot4me2

                  He has the 2.7 EB F-150 like yours & 22mle. He recently went camping and loaded up his truck and trailer then visited the CAT scales. Two adults, 2/3rds fresh water, full gas, full LP, lots of tools, geny, food/clothes for 5 days, large cooler of beer. Tools, geny, & cooler in the truck. Truck came in at 6080#, trailer at 5960#, tongue weight 760# using husky centerline 800-1200 bars.

                  Still recommend you go to the scales with your set up but maybe you can private message him for further details.
                  2010 Tundra SR5 DC 5.7L
                  2020 Imagine XLS 22MLE
                  2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
                  2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid

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                  • #10
                    Thanks. That's good information.

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                    • #11
                      I had a F150 3.5 EB. Switching to LT tires made a big difference, they took out the squishy - squirmy feeling when towing. The unloaded ride was a lot harsher though.
                      We tow a 2650. I was 200# over on the rear axle and gross. I could have spec'd out a new F150 that would work but opted for a F250. Due to Covid, we cancelled our 6-week trip in April & won't get out until July.
                      Last edited by howson; 06-28-2020, 11:42 AM. Reason: Minor edit...
                      2017 Imagine 2650 & 2019 F-250 (Got tired of the F-150)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mbopp View Post
                        I had a F150 3.5 EB. Switching to LT tires made a big difference, they took out the squishy - squirmy feeling when towing. The unloaded ride was a lot harsher though.
                        We tow a 2650. I was 200# over on the rear axle and gross. I could have spec'd out a new F150 that would work but opted for a F250. Due to Covid, we cancelled our 6-week trip in April & won't get out until July.
                        I run my LT tires while not towing at 40 psi to recover most of the original ride quality.

                        Jim
                        2017 Imagine 2600RB
                        2015 GMC Sierra 4x4

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MidwestCamper View Post

                          I run my LT tires while not towing at 40 psi to recover most of the original ride quality.

                          Jim
                          I used to drop mine to 32PSI. It still rode hard :-)
                          2017 Imagine 2650 & 2019 F-250 (Got tired of the F-150)

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