Igniter spark not happening at stovetop

[Scott'n'Wendy]

Our 2021 303RLS has a "AA" battery for ignitor power. Furrion stovetop

[Beachcamper]

Interesting! What stove is in your rig, Vivian? I've only seen the piezo igniter mentioned by Jim.

Howard it’s a furrion cooktop.

[howson]

Scott'n'Wendy and Beachcamper -- I learned something! Always a good day when there's new info to stuff into my gray matter.

[howson]

In case anyone else was curious (like me) where the battery is located in the "Piezo" Furrion stovetop.

[Guest]

I know you determined the issue, but I wanted to post this for future information in case someone comes across the thread.

A Suburban style stove does not use shore power or a battery to generate the ignition spark. When you rotate the knob, a self contained piezo igniter generates the spark to light the gas. It sparks at all three burners at the same time, so no matter which one you're trying to light it will encounter a spark.

If the piezo igniter fails, they are very simple to remove and replace.

Jim

Jim,

To add to this, we had an issue shortly after purchasing our Imagine where the insulaton on the wires from the piezo igniter to each burner had shrunk and cracked all along their length. They were shorting to the stove chassis where the stove failed to ignite.

I called Atwood who mailed a new set of wires.

Jim

[Yoda]

We have gas cooking etc in our house that combines the on- position with the igniter all on one knob, unlike the RV wherein of course the gas-on knob and the igniter knob are separate, so my brain was in the home-mode rather the RV mode, duh!

We have all been there - some more that we will admit

I was wondering if the manual igniter quit and was going to suggest check the connection to the back. I have never had one fail. My gas grill had a battery operating one and it just fails to work usually, so I use a long stick butane lighter.

Thanks for posting the solution

Keith

Happy New Year

[Yoda]

Dave - I believe all the moderators (including myself) are planning on attending the National rally in '23. See you there!

Jim

Boy there goes the neighborhood - I just might need to try and make it It is on the way to Georgia - right?

Keith

[Schiefswret]

Great, God willing, I’ll be there.

[Guest]

These piezo ignition stoves should have a flame sensor that when the gas valve is turned on and no ignition is encountered, the gas should turn off. Children and camping go hand in hand and some kids could easily be messing with the stove since its so easy to reach. Always bothered me that the potential for disaster was present in these RV stoves.

Jim

[Jlawles2]

Guest Jim, I had issues lighting our stove. There is a setting in the control knob that kills gas flow until heat is detected (Murphy switch). So to light the stove: Turn the knob to light and press DOWN while pressing the ignitor, once flame is present release the ignitor continuing to hold the knob DOWN. After approx 15-30 seconds, the knob can be released and burner will stay lit.

Failure to press the knob down will result in a NO LIGHT situation (yeah cursed the stove for 5 min trying to get it lit), releasing early will result in FLAME OUT (kill of gas flow).

[Guest]

Guest Jim, I had issues lighting our stove. There is a setting in the control knob that kills gas flow until heat is detected (Murphy switch). So to light the stove: Turn the knob to light and press DOWN while pressing the ignitor, once flame is present release the ignitor continuing to hold the knob DOWN. After approx 15-30 seconds, the knob can be released and burner will stay lit.

Failure to press the knob down will result in a NO LIGHT situation (yeah cursed the stove for 5 min trying to get it lit), releasing early will result in FLAME OUT (kill of gas flow).

Joseph,

Our Atwood stove will push gas all day long in its unlit state if a child turns the gas on. The only function on this stove that operates as you described is the oven. You must have a different brand where its nice to know this issue is being addressed. Our daughter would remove the knobs from her camper stove due to the same issue as ours.

Jim

[Scott'n'Wendy]

These piezo ignition stoves should have a flame sensor that when the gas valve is turned on and no ignition is encountered, the gas should turn off. Children and camping go hand in hand and some kids could easily be messing with the stove since its so easy to reach. Always bothered me that the potential for disaster was present in these RV stoves.

Jim

That is the way our furrion works. There is a thermocouple close to the burner that needs to stay hot to continue gas flow.

[Cate&Rob]

A thermocouple on the oven burner is common across all RV stoves. I don’t think any have thermocouples on the top surface burners. The logic seems to be (and I don’t know this for a fact) that you will smell the propane from an open but unlit burner before it reaches combustible A/F ratio.

Rob

[Jlawles2]

Guest Cate&Rob Jim and Rob, as stated by Scott the Furrion range tops have some type of sensor (most likely a thermocouple) that will stop the flow. I completely forgot about having to hold down the valve the first time I tried to lite the unit. In both of our other campers, neither had a safety like the Furrion does.

[TucsonJim]

A thermocouple on the oven burner is common across all RV stoves. I don’t think any have thermocouples on the top surface burners. The logic seems to be (and I don’t know this for a fact) that you will smell the propane from an open but unlit burner before it reaches combustible A/F ratio.

Rob

And this is another reason to make sure your LP gas detector is clean and still within it's useful life.