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**COReflection** · 02-07-2024, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Popga View Post

How are you liking the Bilstein switch? Noticeable? I currently have Ranchos
Erik

My truck was pretty new and it comes from the factory with the Rancho shocks. I had the Bilsteins on all my previous trucks so I swapped out the Ranchos for the Bilsteins and I think the ride is much less harsh over the bumps and such with that switch and my latest Hellwig rear sway bar.

**Cate&Rob** · 02-07-2024, 09:09 AM

Yoda If I were considering an addition like this (which I am not) I would definitely lean towards the factory parts. Also take a close look any differences to the front suspension that are paired with addition of a rear bar from the factory. Changing the roll resistance of one end of a vehicle without considering the other end can create vehicle balance issue when cornering at higher speeds. The OEM ride engineers would have gone through the original configuration very carefully to assure nothing unexpected.

Rob

**Popga** · 02-07-2024, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by COReflection View Post

My truck was pretty new and it comes from the factory with the Rancho shocks. I had the Bilsteins on all my previous trucks so I swapped out the Ranchos for the Bilsteins and I think the ride is much less harsh over the bumps and such with that switch and my latest Hellwig rear sway bar.

Thanks, I also put on Helwig front and rear sway bars. There was no factory option for my 2005 Excursion. Know which Bilsteins (color) you got?
Erik

**Scott'n'Wendy** · 02-07-2024, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Popga View Post

Thanks, I also put on Helwig front and rear sway bars. There was no factory option for my 2005 Excursion. Know which Bilsteins (color) you got?
Erik

You will want to go with the 4600 series

Blue and yellow

**Jlawles2** · 02-08-2024, 10:06 AM

Popga I ran the 5100's on my GM's (06 and 18). Some claim they are a bit stiffer than the 4600's but with the camper's extra weight on the truck, the extra stiffness I think helped.

Running them on an SUV I would probably want the softer 4600's for comfort.

**Scott'n'Wendy** · 02-08-2024, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Jlawles2 View Post

Popga I ran the 5100's on my GM's (06 and 18). Some claim they are a bit stiffer than the 4600's but with the camper's extra weight on the truck, the extra stiffness I think helped.

Running them on an SUV I would probably want the softer 4600's for comfort.

I had the 5100's on my previous truck. The 5100's are now geared to lifted trucks where you can get a shock with increased travel. I have been told that construction wise the 5100 is more corrosion resistant but the internal valving is the same.

**Jlawles2** · 02-08-2024, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Scott'n'Wendy View Post

I had the 5100's on my previous truck. The 5100's are now geared to lifted trucks where you can get a shock with increased travel. I have been told that construction wise the 5100 is more corrosion resistant but the internal valving is the same.

When I lookup the ones that fit my truck it says 1.5" lift on the front, but a well trusted vendor I buy truck parts from shows 0-1.5" lift for the same part number. Since the vendor is also a specialist in the same make of truck I am running and offers install service with exceptional warranty, I'll trust them with the specs and verify before ordering. The factory ones will probably get replaced late this year or by summer of next.

**ncitro** · 02-08-2024, 02:52 PM

I run the 5100s on this truck with stock height. I recall doing the same research and concluded it was 0-1.5. I wanted the black/silver instead of yellow and blue this time. I did the 4600 on my last few. All have been excellent.

**COReflection** · 02-08-2024, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Popga View Post

Thanks, I also put on Helwig front and rear sway bars. There was no factory option for my 2005 Excursion. Know which Bilsteins (color) you got?
Erik

I'm using the 4600 monotubes that are blue/yellow. My AT4 is listed as having a 1.5" lift but I'm finding that doesn't translate to extended shocks or different rear sway bar links. Hellwig told me I needed the sway bar links for a lifted truck so I ordered them only to find out they were too long. I just cut them down and rewelded the hoops on the ends to make them standard height.

**Yoda** · 02-28-2024, 05:06 PM

Update
I just ordered my sway bar components from https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/ Best pricing and beat shipping rate of the numerous places I checked for ordering OEM parts.
Total costs was $298 50

This is the final list of parts I ordered

Bar HC3Z-5A772-A 1 needed
Bar lower shock mount brackets 7C3Z-5486-B 2 needed
Bolts for shock mount brackets W500634-S309 4 needed

Stabilizer link HC3Z-5K484-D 2 needed It appears the bushings and bolts are included
Nuts to fit the link bolts W707492-S439 4 needed This changed from previous list

Frame mounting bracket for upper link connection. HC3Z-5L499-A 2 needed
Bolts for mounting bracket W500644-S439 4 needed
Clip capture nuts for frame brackets W717462-S439 4 needed

List from the order conformation

	Part Description	Subtotal
	Part No.: 7C3Z-5486-B RETAINER	30.66

	Part No.: HC3Z-5K484-D LINK	48.68

	Part No.: HC3Z-5A772-A BAR - STABILIZER	92.18

	Part No.: -W500634-S309 BOLT - HEX. HEAD - FLANGED Replaced by: -W500634-S442	16.40

	Part No.: -W707492-S439 NUT - ADJUSTING SCREW	16.40

	Part No.: -W500644-S439 BOLT	6.44

	Part No.: -W717462-S439 NUT - ADJUSTING SCREW	11.72

	Part No.: HC3Z-5L499-A BRACKET	44.68

Again this thread helped get the right parts needed https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-long-bed.html

I will update this thread with the install information when the parts arrive.

Keith

**Scott'n'Wendy** · 02-28-2024, 07:27 PM

Cool!
I would enjoy a video of your install.......

**Yoda** · 02-29-2024, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Scott'n'Wendy View Post

Cool!
I would enjoy a video of your install.......

As long as you don't post it to America Funniest Videos

Second problem is me learning how to make one

**Yoda** · 03-01-2024, 04:55 PM

Quick update - all parts in stock except the brackets that hold the sway bar to the shock mounts. Should be in next week per https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/

Keith

**Scott'n'Wendy** · 03-02-2024, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Yoda View Post

As long as you don't post it to America Funniest Videos

Second problem is me learning how to make one

We will split the winnings....

**Scott'n'Wendy** · 03-02-2024, 07:23 AM

FYI, polyurethane bushings squeak. If you ordered rubber, just assemble and you are good to go. But if poly, make sure you use poly grease where the bushing goes around the bar.

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