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**MK397THR** · 03-24-2022, 10:36 PM

I obviously can’t speak for Ford, but Chevrolet recommended top tier diesel or use the GM fuel conditioner. As for the def fluid I get it from the dealer until the warranty is out. If a problem does come up hopefully that will eliminate any contamination arguments.

**Scott'n'Wendy** · 03-25-2022, 06:32 AM

DEF additive. Wow. An additive for an additive..lol. I'm withCate&Rob , these trucks were designed to run with what people can get at the pump...no adding anything else.

**Guest** · 03-25-2022, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by MK397THR View Post

I obviously can’t speak for Ford, but Chevrolet recommended top tier diesel or use the GM fuel conditioner. As for the def fluid I get it from the dealer until the warranty is out. If a problem does come up hopefully that will eliminate any contamination arguments.

GM diesels are designed to operate on low cetane fuels at around 40. Since nobody knows the actual CN at the pump, how much additive would one add? Higher cetane reduces ignition delay, burns hotter, reduces emissions and increases particulates but otherwise its only useful in aiding in cold starts where it will not increase torque and power. Buying Top tier and the proper seasonal fuel is best. However if top tier fuel is not available, GM does offer an additive. Otherwise it should not be used.

Miracle additives should be avoided.

Jim

**Wileykid** · 03-25-2022, 08:15 AM

I have had diesels that needed DEF since 2016, and have always run the Walmart brand with no issues. If I am on the road, I will get the DEF off the pump. I just make sure the date on the container at the Walmart in not old, and although I think it only may have happened several times, in the store I will take the cap off and check to see if the cardboard cap is on and glued down. All DEF have to meet the same specs, and for me, the "premium", or dealer specific are just added snake oil.

**Jlawles2** · 03-25-2022, 01:20 PM

Here in TX they post the MINIMUM Cetane number on the diesel pumps just like Minimum Octane.

**Guest** · 03-25-2022, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Jlawles2 View Post

Here in TX they post the MINIMUM Cetane number on the diesel pumps just like Minimum Octane.

That and along with the Top Tier label would be important where top tier should meet the minimum cetane requirement. Higher Cetane and Octane are the inverse of one another. Higher Cetane speeds up the burn rate and can ignite earlier where higher octane in gasoline slows the burn rate and prevents pre-ignition. Premium fuel on a gas engine calibrated to 87 is a waste of money and will actually reduce torque because of the slower burn rate.

Jim

**Yoda** · 03-25-2022, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by MidwestCamper View Post

That and along with the Top Tier label would be important where top tier should meet the minimum cetane requirement. Higher Cetane and Octane are the inverse of one another. Higher Cetane speeds up the burn rate and can ignite earlier where higher octane in gasoline slows the burn rate and prevents pre-ignition. Premium fuel on a gas engine calibrated to 87 is a waste of money and will actually reduce torque because of the slower burn rate.

Jim

You had to go and tell me something new

now I will wonder what gray cell got replaced

. Good information. That;s one thing about getting old. You forget about what you wanted to forget about without knowing it.

Wileykid I made the mistake of hanging on to the 04 too long. My first diesel was a 1995 7.3 IDI. It was a beast. Manual 4 speed.. I always carried a 17mm socket and wrench along with the cam position sensor (its only flaw) in the glove box. I learned to get them from the IH dealer as they were 1/4 the cost of Ford. The IH 444 commercial engine used the same one. Sometimes I kick myself for getting trading it, but kids came along and I needed the CC to keep them happy (separate bucket seats.)

This will be my first DEF diesel with all of the electronics. MY 04 had none of this, so lets say the old fogy (sore head) is on for one heck of a new learning curve. I am lucky that SWMBO knows a whole lot more than I do on the information screens. Her 2016 Escape has one and it drives me nuts at times.

Thanks folks. Please keep the information coming.
Keith

**Yoda** · 03-26-2022, 05:57 PM

YOUR VEHICLE HAS BEEN BUILT

Our current estimate for delivery is between April 18, 2022 and April 24, 2022.

**Scott'n'Wendy** · 03-26-2022, 07:42 PM

Glad to hear it Y-O-D-A..Yoda...

We will expect pictures.....

**Country Campers** · 03-26-2022, 07:47 PM

I call shotgun!

Brian

**Yoda** · 03-30-2022, 12:56 PM

YOUR VEHICLE IS ON ITS WAY

Dear KEITH ,
Your new 2022 Super Duty F-350 King Ranch Crew Cab has shipped and is on its way!
Our current estimate for delivery is between April 18, 2022 and April 24, 2022. Once it arrives, a dealership representative will contact you to arrange final delivery.

**Country Campers** · 03-30-2022, 04:51 PM

The White Whale is coming! The White Whale is coming!

Brian

**Yoda** · 03-30-2022, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Country Campers View Post

The White Whale is coming! The White Whale is coming!

Brian

Pegasus my friend Pegasus. The majestic white winged horse. Everyone says these new trucks fly

**Yoda** · 03-30-2022, 08:13 PM

I have my fingers crossed my truck is on the lower shipping rack of a transport given the storm pattern it might have driven through - or do they go by enclosed rail cars? I hope the latter.

**Cate&Rob** · 03-30-2022, 08:23 PM

All the way to where you are, will almost certainly be by enclosed rail car.
Agreed that Midwest weather (where we are at the moment

) is a major concern for the next 24 hours.

Rob

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